Video Suggestions

cmoberg · January 31, 2006, 02:46:22 PM

Can you tell us more about the center camera rig. Do you have tripod controls for Zoom and Focus?? Do you have an external field monitor? Having these controls and slinging the monitor in the tripod make tracking and focus much easier (it is more comfortable for the camera operator too).

Aesthetically, the frequent flare from the auto iris is annoying. You should have a feel for where the rink is light and dark, manually adjust iris as you pan. Also, can you do something with the white balance? I know Age has indicated the lights are hellish to work with but they are the constant, the color temperature should not change from one area to another.

Keep up the good work. I very much enjoy watching the games.

Chris

CowbellGuy · January 31, 2006, 02:57:08 PM

[quote cmoberg]I know Age has indicated the lights are hellish to work with but they are the constant, the color temperature should not change from one area to another.[/quote]
Brightness is consistent, if uneven, but temperature seems to fluctuate wildly creating odd color casts, though this is seen more with fast shutter speeds and probably doesn't affect video much.

http://www.elynah.com/?process

Rosey · January 31, 2006, 03:12:38 PM

[quote CowbellGuy]Brightness is consistent, if uneven,[/quote]
For what it's worth, I strongly suspect the old lighting (not sure when it was replaced; the last renovation seems likely) was inconsistent: during my many hour-long pre-game waits at Lynah, I would spend time just looking around the rink, and I noticed several of the lights nearest me oscillating between brighter and dimmer with a reasonably long---maybe 20 second---period.

It's the sort of thing you notice only if you're looking for it, or if you spent enough downtime there to pick up on stupid crap like that. But as I indicated in a previous thread ( http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,80595,80633#msg-80633 ), I had no life.

I didn't notice this from the new lights two weeks ago, and I was looking for it.

Why did I mention this? Mid-afternoon boredom.

Cheers,
Kyle

CowbellGuy · January 31, 2006, 03:15:11 PM

You're quite right, but brightness is much easier to adjust in photos than the peculiar color casts from the new lights. The old lights were much darker in general, too.

cmoberg · January 31, 2006, 03:43:43 PM

What technology do the new lights use (Sodium Vapor) ? Most lithting technologies put out light in a narrow color temperature. It seems strange the the light output (FC/Lux) would be relatively constant but that the temperature would change. Is it that the temp from one light changes, or are there differences from light to light?

Chris

CowbellGuy · January 31, 2006, 03:56:21 PM

Well, each light seems to actually fluctuate from blue through white to red and back. You can shoot the same spot and have one area blue and the area next to it only to have them swap in another frame. They're quite peculiar.

Trustnduzt · January 31, 2006, 05:52:30 PM

I'm mainly responsible for the wide-angle so I just maintain the zoomed-out view the entire game. The three other cameras are for closeups. Keep in mind that the center ice camera that I operate is the feed that is given to both team's coaching staffs and the one that is archived. Thus, for game analysis their purposes they don't need many close-ups and if they did, they could grab the other camera's feeds, I presume.

Tub(a) · February 17, 2006, 08:24:30 PM

Bumping this thread...

Thanks for sticking with the center-ice cam tonight against Dartmouth.

I would like a wider view once the puck is in the offensive zone, sometimes it was zoomed in a bit too much on the play (OLN-esque) and we missed out on some of the play. However, the production today (aside from CSTV issues) was much better IMO.

Rosey · February 17, 2006, 08:27:59 PM

[quote Tub(a)]Bumping this thread...

Thanks for sticking with the center-ice cam tonight against Dartmouth.

I would like a wider view once the puck is in the offensive zone, sometimes it was zoomed in a bit too much on the play (OLN-esque) and we missed. However, the production today (aside from CSTV issues) was much better IMO.[/quote]
Agreed. Even CSTV has been admittedly better, as pathetic as that is considering the poor consistency from the stream tonight.

Kyle

DeltaOne81 · February 17, 2006, 11:03:59 PM

[quote Tub(a)]Bumping this thread...

Thanks for sticking with the center-ice cam tonight against Dartmouth.

I would like a wider view once the puck is in the offensive zone, sometimes it was zoomed in a bit too much on the play (OLN-esque) and we missed out on some of the play. However, the production today (aside from CSTV issues) was much better IMO.[/quote]

How could you tell? I couldn't watch more than 2 minutes straight tonight without needing to reload the video.

Tub(a) · February 17, 2006, 11:27:37 PM

[quote DeltaOne81][quote Tub(a)]Bumping this thread...

Thanks for sticking with the center-ice cam tonight against Dartmouth.

I would like a wider view once the puck is in the offensive zone, sometimes it was zoomed in a bit too much on the play (OLN-esque) and we missed out on some of the play. However, the production today (aside from CSTV issues) was much better IMO.[/quote]

How could you tell? I couldn't watch more than 2 minutes straight tonight without needing to reload the video.[/quote]

The Second period was sweet ::rolleyes::

Tub(a) · March 10, 2006, 08:12:33 PM

Another bump...

Seems like some of the old problems have returned, too much switching to questionable camera angles and far too tight of a camera angle in the offensive zones.

We didn't see either the McCutcheon or Glover goals because the camera was way too tight on the puck.

Thanks again...

Trustnduzt · March 10, 2006, 11:20:07 PM

Really?

I heard the webcast producer telling one of the cameraman that they missed the shot on the McClutch goal...

I kept the wide angle the whole time and got both. I told them they should try to keep the wide angle more often...

DeltaOne81 · March 10, 2006, 11:42:05 PM

The corner cam guy still really likes to zoom in. Really, there's no reason why giving us the view that we would have if we were standing there isn't fine - i.e. seeing the whole ice (from front to back, that is). Internet video quality isn't good enough to see the puck most of the time when zoomed in, so it doesn't serve much purpose. Better from the center ice cam though

And thanks for fixing the cable problem today so quickly. Its still a shame that we can't call CSTV and have them pass it to you - that instead we have to text people at the rink and have them go and tell you. But hey, whatever works I guess. Thanks again for fixing it before we missed any action.

Trustnduzt · March 11, 2006, 01:00:01 AM

No problem -- it was just a bit loose in the wall and someone noticed it after a few minutes. I'll tell the webcast producer tomorrow to stick to the wide shots more often; they do appreciate the feedback!