Cornell 4 Clarkson 2

Trotsky · January 23, 2006, 01:34:32 PM

[quote RichS](1) Referring to the Clarkson mid 80s jersey...is that the one with the script "Clarkson" across the chest?

(2) By the way, it's "gold", as in "Golden Knights" not yellow. If you check the color charts, I believe the manufacturers indicate that. That's what I was told anyhow. ;-)[/quote]

(1) Not the one I'm talking about, no. I'll try to find a picture. I alo really love the old style vertical lettering, but that was on a jersey before my time.
(2) We're talking about the junior high school locker puke mustard color from the first "third jersey," right? Other than a Western Michigan jersey of about 15 years ago, that's gotta be the ugliest color I've ever seen on... well... on anything.
(3) Cornell also had a series of horrendous jerseys in the fashion-challenged 70's. One looks like the Where's Waldo? band sweaters, and another has a script "Cornell" scrawl that looks like a pee wee team. Thankfully, the return to the classic sweaters appears to be permanent.

billhoward · January 23, 2006, 01:40:09 PM

Well, yellow jerseys probably would show up better on a Webcast than the green that becomes black (thank you CSTV). 'course, come faceoff time, any canine in the stands would probably get excited seeing six fire hydrants. Smart dogs at Lynah sitting in the home sections would see five hydrants and a yellow sieve.

God bless Cornell's timeless jerseys. Pass that along to the football team.

RichS · January 23, 2006, 01:40:15 PM

Hillel,

Most if not all of the recent changing can be ascribed to the short term (Thank God!) reign of the prior AD, Sean Frazier, who despite having U Maine on his resume, had no clue about D1 hockey and even less of an idea about the terrific Clarkson tradition to which you refer.

His tenure was marked by "marketing" efforts, many of which were misguided, did little or no good, and upset many loyal alumni.

To which diagonally lettered Clarkson jersey are you referring? The script version made an rc and I don't recall any diagonal lettered version being used for a long period of time.

It's "gold" not yellow and it's used because the official colors are "green and gold."

Trotsky · January 23, 2006, 01:42:17 PM

[quote billhoward]Pass that along to the football team.[/quote]
Got that right. There was a time when the CU football jerseys looked great. I don't know how they got "black" out of "Carnelian red and white."

KeithK · January 23, 2006, 01:46:03 PM

[q]It's "gold" not yellow and it's used because the official colors are "green and gold."[/q]I thought it was the "Yellow Knights"? Yeah, that has a nice ring to it. :-D :-P

RichS · January 23, 2006, 01:52:51 PM

Trotsky,

(1) Vertical lettering? I don't recall one like that. Did you mean horizontal or diagonal?

(2) Yes, the mustard-colored ones were in the Dallas Stars style if I recall correctly or am I confusing it with the Michigan style script? One of those definitely had the "puke mustard" color and was almost universally disliked by Techers and Tech alumni.

(3) I had long since forgotten about the red's 70's versions that you mention until a couple of years ago when this topic came up.

As much as I like the classic stability of the uniform, imagine my "horror" when I took this HS coaching job last year and the first thing the AD shows me is the unis with the cornell scheme! Yikes, I even have to sometimes don a red turtleneck in the colder rinks we play in. I do manage to sneak it on under a Clarkson sweater...white with small green letters so NO puke yellow! :-)

Trotsky · January 23, 2006, 01:56:17 PM

I meant "diagonal."

Drew · January 23, 2006, 02:08:59 PM

I believe this is the one Trotsky, Page 98 (5of 7)

http://www.clarksonathletics.com/Pdfs/mhock/2005/10/19/Tradition.pdf

Hillel Hoffmann · January 23, 2006, 02:09:11 PM

[quote RichS]To which diagonally lettered Clarkson jersey are you referring? The script version made an rc and I don't recall any diagonal lettered version being used for a long period of time.[/quote]

I'm probably describing it poorly: It wasn't diagonal lettering, it was block letters arranged diagonally, like the Rangers, Wisconsin, and (traditional) Northern Michigan uniforms. That's what Clarkson wore in the Ceglarski period, and then again in the early-mid 1980s.

[quote RichS]It's "gold" not yellow and it's used because the official colors are "green and gold."[/quote]

You/they can call it gold, but y'all know it ain't gold. Marketing can lie, but eyes cannot. Let me make it easy for you:

Gold: bullion, a pharoah's treasure, the Dome of the Rock, Notre Dame.

Yellow: Velveeta, pus, fluffy chicks, Clarkson.

Trotsky · January 23, 2006, 02:12:19 PM

[quote Drew]I believe this is the one Trotsky, Page 98 (5of 7)

http://www.clarksonathletics.com/Pdfs/mhock/2005/10/19/Tradition.pdf[/quote]

Hey, that's great!

In the 80's section: the one in the top right box is the one I meant. The one in the central image is the classic diagonal which I never saw in person, but which, much like Wisconsin, is timeless and gorgeous.

Drew · January 23, 2006, 02:21:31 PM

I would have been thrilled if they stayed with the "arched" one you refer to, (which was worn during my time there).

The diagonal is classic.

ugarte · January 23, 2006, 02:30:09 PM

[quote Hillel Hoffmann]You/they can call it gold, but y'all know it ain't gold. Marketing can lie, but eyes cannot. Let me make it easy for you:

Gold: bullion, a pharoah's treasure, the Dome of the Rock, Notre Dame.

Yellow: Velveeta, pus, fluffy chicks, Clarkson.[/quote]And to beat Rich to the punch, we are well aware that our unis are "red" not Carnellian.

carnellian: carnellian
red: rubies, love and blood

RichS · January 23, 2006, 02:37:00 PM

Hillel,

It had to be early in Lenny's tenure at Tech that they wore diagonally-lettered jerseys. I'll ck the book at home toknight. In my "Lenny years" (70-72) , they wore the arched "Clarkson" design. And trust me, in those days, it was "gold" that met the eyes, not yellow. And with gold Cooper helmets too.

I can't recall the term of art for colors...is it "Pantone"...someone help me here...but I was told that the uni companies call the Tech color "gold" or whatever the industry name for it is.

That's the quasi official version I heard a number of years back from Tech. :-)

RichS · January 23, 2006, 02:52:53 PM

well there you go, punching me again...ouch! lol...

So why arent they called the "big carnellian"?

However, "carnellian: carnellian"?

Didn't you learn in grade school (or at cornell?) that you can't define a word by using the word?

Hey, I couldn't resist. :-D

cth95 · January 23, 2006, 02:53:29 PM

A fairly young guy (mid 20's?) was wearing a jersey similar to the one in the top photo in my skate last night. It had gold, arched, block letters and gold shoulder boards. I don't know what year it was, but it looked pretty good. I haven't seen him before, and I play in net so I didn't get a chance to ask him about it.