2005-2006 PWR

Started by cth95, January 18, 2006, 02:20:30 PM

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Tub(a)

The obvious problem with Cornell at 9 as of today is not only playing in the Wisconsin regional, but playing Michigan State in the first round  ::uhoh::
Tito Short!

jtwcornell91

[quote DeltaOne81]Adding RIT right now would add 0.0015 to our RPI, but we'd still be 11th (in RPI). So as of this moment, it would help us, but little enough to not make a difference.[/quote]

Interesting.  At the time, the win over RIT actually hurt our RPI.  They must have won a few games.

jtwcornell91

[quote jy3]couple of things...it would be tough to include RIT since they played some dIII schools this year. I think that if you were to include them they would meet the 25 game vs dI school minimum.[/quote]

Last I heard that minimum was 20, not 25.  And there's no problem including RIT; you  just leave out their games against non-D1 opponents.

Josh '99

[quote Tub(a)]The obvious problem with Cornell at 9 as of today is not only playing in the Wisconsin regional, but playing Michigan State in the first round  ::uhoh::[/quote]That doesn't strike me as a problem.  I'd love to get another crack at them.  I'd guess the team would too.
"They do all kind of just blend together into one giant dildo."
-Ben Rocky 04

jy3

[quote jtwcornell91][quote jy3]couple of things...it would be tough to include RIT since they played some dIII schools this year. I think that if you were to include them they would meet the 25 game vs dI school minimum.[/quote]

Last I heard that minimum was 20, not 25.  And there's no problem including RIT; you  just leave out their games against non-D1 opponents.[/quote]

yeah i wasnt sure if it was 20 or 25. i meant to say that if we get rid of the dIII games they could be counted..
something interesting...scheduling RIT does nothing for the team yet it took up an OOC slot and counted towards the ivy limit. that stinks. although, it may have convinced coach that the team should host the rochester regional :)
LGR!!!!!!!!!!
jy3 '00

Jim Hyla

Well I think we can forget about this for a while and concentrate on winning the ECAC.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Josh '99

[quote Jim Hyla]Well I think we can forget about this for a while and concentrate on winning the ECAC.[/quote]This isn't to take issue with you, Jim, but with what seems to be the prevailing dichotomy of views: namely, that people are either concentrating on the ECAC, or concentrating on the NCAA.   Seems to me that the goal all the time (and I'd guess this is the way Schafer and the team view things) should be to concentrate on winning the next game on the schedule.  The rest, whether it's PWR or ECAC playoff matchups, is just idle speculation.
"They do all kind of just blend together into one giant dildo."
-Ben Rocky 04

Jim Hyla

[quote jmh30][quote Jim Hyla]Well I think we can forget about this for a while and concentrate on winning the ECAC.[/quote]This isn't to take issue with you, Jim, but with what seems to be the prevailing dichotomy of views: namely, that people are either concentrating on the ECAC, or concentrating on the NCAA.   Seems to me that the goal all the time (and I'd guess this is the way Schafer and the team view things) should be to concentrate on winning the next game on the schedule.  The rest, whether it's PWR or ECAC playoff matchups, is just idle speculation.[/quote]Yeah, that's actually what I meant. When I said win the ECAC, I meant the RS title, that is let's take care of the upcoming games and then the tourney. and then worry about the NCAA. The team has put itself in a difficult position for a high seed.

I should have realized that most of the time when we say win the ECAC we mean the tourney. My confusing post.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Chris \'03

[quote jmh30][quote Tub(a)]The obvious problem with Cornell at 9 as of today is not only playing in the Wisconsin regional, but playing Michigan State in the first round  ::uhoh::[/quote]That doesn't strike me as a problem.  I'd love to get another crack at them.  I'd guess the team would too.[/quote]

Personally a regional that potentially means games vs. MSU and Wisconsin seems like a pretty good matchup. Cornell matches up reasonably well with both. They know what to expect from MSU and have proven capable of beating them on two weeks practice. It may seem crazy to say that the top team in the PWR is a good matchup but if I had to choose a WCHA team between Minnesota, defending champion Denver (I know they're on the outside looking in now), NoDak at home (ditto), CC, and Wisconsin (playing with the added pressure of trying to play in a "home" frozen four), I'd take WI just about everytime (unless CC decides to stop scoring again). They don't play a typical WCHA run and gun kind of game. They are a lot like the eastern teams that rely on strong defense and opportunistic offense. Of course there's a lot of hockey to go and Cornell has almost as good a chance of seeing BC and Lake State in Albany as MSU and Wisco come March.

billhoward

[quote Jim Hyla]Well I think we can forget about this for a while and concentrate on winning the ECAC.[/quote]
With electrons being free and all, and our having nearly infinite free time, or so it seems, there's no reason the players can't concentrate on winning the ECAC tournament and leave to us the task of figuring out who is the ideal matchup.

jy3

33/22/11
sacred heart is now a tuc...

Rk    Team    PWR    Record    RPI
Rk    W-L-T    Win %    Rk    RPI
1    Wisconsin    29    4    20-7-2    .7241    1    .5948
2    Minnesota    28    5    19-6-5    .7167    2    .5854
3    Miami    27    1    20-5-4    .7586    3    .5753
4t    Boston University    24    7    17-8-2    .6667    5    .5583
4t    Boston College    24    2    19-6-2    .7407    6    .5545
4t    Nebraska-Omaha    24    19    17-11-4    .5938    7    .5544
7    Colorado College    23    14t    19-12-1    .6094    4 .5615
8t    Michigan    21    14t    18-11-3    .6094    8    .5515
8t    Michigan State    21    16    17-10-7    .6029    9    .5492
10    Cornell    20    6    15-5-4    .7083    11    .5430
11t    Ohio State    18    31t    14-14-4    .5000    16    .5344
11t    Harvard    18    21t    13-9-2    .5833    15    .5348
13    Providence    17    24t    15-11-2    .5714    12    .5417
14t    Maine    15    8    19-10-1    .6500    13    .5392
14t    Denver    15    9t    18-10-2    .6333    17    .5343
16t    St. Cloud State    14    12    17-10-3 .6167    18    .5332
16t    St. Lawrence    14    24t    15-11-2    .5714    14    .5376
18    North Dakota    13    23    18-13-1    .5781    10    .5455
19    New Hampshire    11    21t    15-10-5    .5833    23    .5178
20    Alaska-Fairbanks    10    31t    13-13-4 5000    19    .5329
21    Lake Superior    9    17t    15-9-6    .6000    20    .5311
22t    Ferris State    8    29t    14-12-6    .5313    21    .5300
22t    Vermont    8    9t    17-9-4    .6333    22    .5271
24    Dartmouth    7    26    13-10-2    .5600    24    .5178
25t    Holy Cross    5    3    20-7-1    .7321    25    .5167
25t    Northern Michigan    5    29t    16-14-2 .5313    27    .5091
27    Colgate    3    17t    15-9-6    .6000    26    .5122
28t    Notre Dame    2    39    11-16-3    .4167    28    .5029
28t    Clarkson    2    31t    13-13-3    .5000    29    .5027
30    Sacred Heart    0    13    16-10-1    .6111    30    .5020
LGR!!!!!!!!!!
jy3 '00

jy3

slight change in rpi for cornell and sucks
Harvard  .5348 -> .5329
cornell  .5430 -> .5433
bc-bu game pending
LGR!!!!!!!!!!
jy3 '00

jkahn

[quote jy3]slight change in rpi for cornell and sucks
Harvard  .5348 -> .5329
cornell  .5430 -> .5433
bc-bu game pending[/quote]
A good example of how poor a measure RPI is.  We'll actually get a bigger positive effect in the long run from Harvard's win, as we play them twice and Northeastern only once.
Jeff Kahn '70 '72

jy3

[quote jkahn][quote jy3]slight change in rpi for cornell and sucks
Harvard  .5348 -> .5329
cornell  .5430 -> .5433
bc-bu game pending[/quote]
A good example of how poor a measure RPI is.  We'll actually get a bigger positive effect in the long run from Harvard's win, as we play them twice and Northeastern only once.[/quote]
that is true
33/22/11 with the bu over bc in the beanpot

Rk    Team    PWR    Record    RPI
Rk    W-L-T    Win %    Rk    RPI
1    Wisconsin    29    3    20-7-2    .7241    1    .5949
2    Minnesota    28    4    19-6-5    .7167    2    .5854
3    Miami    27    1    20-5-4    .7586    3    .5752
4    Boston University    26    7    18-8-2    .6786    4    .5660
5    Nebraska-Omaha    24    20    17-11-4    .5938    6    .5543
6t    Colorado College    22    14t    19-12-1   .6094    5    .5618
6t    Michigan    22    14t    18-11-3    .6094    7    .5511
6t    Boston College    22    5    19-7-2    .7143    8    .5509
9    Michigan State    21    16    17-10-7    .6029    9    .5492
10    Cornell    20    6    15-5-4    .7083    11    .5432
11    Harvard    18    17t    14-9-2    .6000    18    .5331
12t    Ohio State    17    31t    14-14-4    .5000    16    .5344
12t    Providence    17    24t    15-11-2    .5714    12    .5409
14    Denver    16    9t    18-10-2    .6333    15    .5346
15    Maine    15    8    19-10-1    .6500    13    .5390
16t    St. Cloud State    14    12    17-10-3    .6167    17    .5333
16t    St. Lawrence    14    24t    15-11-2    .5714    14    .5379
18    North Dakota    13    23    18-13-1    .5781    10    .5456
19    New Hampshire    11    22    15-10-5    .5833    24    .5173
20    Alaska-Fairbanks    10    31t    13-13-4   .5000    19    .5328
21    Lake Superior    9    17t    15-9-6    .6000    20    .5310
22t    Ferris State    8    29t    14-12-6    .5313    21    .5296
22t    Vermont    8    9t    17-9-4    .6333    22    .5255
24    Dartmouth    7    26    13-10-2    .5600    23    .5187
25t    Holy Cross    5    2    20-7-1    .7321    25    .5167
25t    Northern Michigan    5    29t    16-14-2 .5313    27    .5091
27t    Colgate    3    17t    15-9-6    .6000    26    .5125
27t    Clarkson    3    31t    13-13-3    .5000    28    .5029
29    Notre Dame    1    39    11-16-3    .4167    29    .5028
30    Sacred Heart    0    13    16-10-1    .6111    30    .5020
LGR!!!!!!!!!!
jy3 '00

Beeeej

Last night's Beanpot results had the enormous impact of moving us from a first-round matchup against Michigan in Wisconsin... to a first-round matchup against Michigan in North Dakota.  Woo.

Beeeej
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