Recruits 2006: The New Thread

[Liz '05]

I'd find it ironic if McKee left school after setting up a program to help learning centers.  I'd think he would be pretty committed to finishing college.

Don't go, Dave

[jkahn]

It's probably as simple as someone saying something like "There's a good chance David might not come back next year, since even last summer he got several offers to turn pro."

[DeltaOne81]

[quote jkahn]It's probably as simple as someone saying something like "There's a good chance David might not come back next year, since even last summer he got several offers to turn pro."[/quote]

Yeah, exactly. I misspoke to say they "told" him. I meant they said something to imply it. That said, I'm glad he didn't come here, cause if he misunderstood that, and then McKee didn't leave, he'd be pretty pissed.

[calgARI '07]

It really does seem absord that McKee would have made up his mind already.  However, the coaches are recruiting another goalie.  That tells me that he's made his decision.

[billhoward]

If it looks as if Cornell has a sizable batch of recruits incoming - of course, not all the maybes are really signing on - is that because Cornell is making provisions for the worst case happening this spring?

- Moulson graduates
- Five other seniors graduate
- Pokoluk stays or leaves?
- O'Byrne stays or leaves?
- McKee stays or leaves?
- Would any of the freshmen want to take their chances in the pros, or a Ray Sawada? (June 2004: "I'm still going to Cornell," said Sawada, who was selected 52nd overall by Dallas. "You never know how long you're going to stay there, but I'll work my hardest once I get there." [USCHO])
- Mike Schafer hears a tempting offer

That's a lot of people for coach Shafer to replace. Um, Mike, you're still with us, right?

It's not good for the program to bring in 20 solid recruits and cut 10 but it's not good for the program, the fans, or Cornell's winning record to bring in 8 and find you need 12.

When Leneveu left over the summer, recall, Schafer found himself a solid goalie over that same summer in Mckee. That only works if the player has finished HS and is playing juniors for a year.

Ari may be right that Ryan O'Byrne is the most valuable player (when healthy) that Cornell has, but if MVP is the guy without whom you're hosed, then it's McKee. Nobody knows for sure what he's doing and all we can do is look at the numbers: His family is a big part of the Cornell community and it must be a great time being here for David and family ... the family is well off so David doesn't need to bail this spring to earn a living and conversely if his Cornell degree is delayed, he's not going to be collecting food stamps ... he's the same age as David Leneveu: spring 1983 birthdates.

Cornell only got three years out of Ken Dryden. Different reason, of course.

[calgARI '07]

[quote DeltaOne81][quote jkahn]It's probably as simple as someone saying something like "There's a good chance David might not come back next year, since even last summer he got several offers to turn pro."[/quote]

Yeah, exactly. I misspoke to say they "told" him. I meant they said something to imply it. That said, I'm glad he didn't come here, cause if he misunderstood that, and then McKee didn't leave, he'd be pretty pissed.[/quote]

I'm happy he didn't come because I think that is kind of a sketchy thing to say in an interview.  If the coaches told him that, they likely did with the idea he wouldn't go telling everyone.

[DeltaOne81]

[quote calgARI '07]It really does seem absord that McKee would have made up his mind already.  However, the coaches are recruiting another goalie.  That tells me that he's made his decision.[/quote]

Could they just be being safe? And maybe ask one to defer if he stays. Lets compare McKee and the last Cornell goalie that left early

Lenny, coming off a career year and NCAA record GAA
McKee, having a decent year, but definitely a drop from the previous

Lenny, coming off a dramatic ECAC title and trip the Frozen Four
McKee, we'll see

Lenny, drafted, with the maximum rookie offer that would undoubtedly be restricted with the new CBA pending
McKee, undrafted, with no doubt lesser offers

Lenny, makes up his mind in late June/July
McKee, made up his mind in January?

I'm not saying McKee's not leaving, nor am I insulting him... I just somehow find it unfathomable that he'd decide so much earlier than Lenny, while Lenny had so much more reason to leave.

[redredux]

I can't remember where but I'm pretty sure McKee has said he's not too fond of Ithaca being from Texas and all.  I would be surprised if he leaves but who knows.

What seems more likely is that O'Byrne and Pokulok leave.  That combined with McKee leaving and Gleed gradutaing obviously would be tough for the D to take.  But even if just the "towers" and Gleed leave, we'd have 5 dmen plus one recruit coming in.  Maybe another D recruit is the biggest priority.

We are losing a lot of forwards but the firepower coming in plus this year's freshmen, who are coming into form, should smooth the transition.

[calgARI '07]

[quote DeltaOne81][quote calgARI '07]It really does seem absord that McKee would have made up his mind already.  However, the coaches are recruiting another goalie.  That tells me that he's made his decision.[/quote]

Could they just be being safe? And maybe ask one to defer if he stays. Lets compare McKee and the last Cornell goalie that left early

Lenny, coming off a career year and NCAA record GAA
McKee, having a decent year, but definitely a drop from the previous

Lenny, coming off a dramatic ECAC title and trip the Frozen Four
McKee, we'll see

Lenny, drafted, with the maximum rookie offer that would undoubtedly be restricted with the new CBA pending
McKee, undrafted, with no doubt lesser offers

Lenny, makes up his mind in late June/July
McKee, made up his mind in January?

I'm not saying McKee's not leaving, nor am I insulting him... I just somehow find it unfathomable that he'd decide so much earlier than Lenny, while Lenny had so much more reason to leave.[/quote]

I think this is probably pretty accurate so maybe Cornell is looking for a goalie for '07 but could come a year early like McKee did.  They turned out to be very lucky in that whole situation especially beacuse Marr ended up getting hurt.  However, I'm sure that they would have gotten a safegap mid-tier guy had McKee not come a year early.

[Lauren '06]

I spoke to someone who would know such things before the @Colgate game, and she shook her head at the rumor that McKee had made up his mind to leave.  I'm satisfied with that for now, but you never know if he'll make up his mind at the end of the season.

[Jim Hyla]

[quote Section A Banshee]I spoke to someone who would know such things before the @Colgate game, and she shook her head at the rumor that McKee had made up his mind to leave.  I'm satisfied with that for now, but you never know if he'll make up his mind at the end of the season.[/quote]I think the she gives it away, but I wouldn't expect her to say anything else.

[Lauren '06]

[quote Jim Hyla][quote Section A Banshee]I spoke to someone who would know such things before the @Colgate game, and she shook her head at the rumor that McKee had made up his mind to leave.  I'm satisfied with that for now, but you never know if he'll make up his mind at the end of the season.[/quote]I think the she gives it away, but I wouldn't expect her to say anything else.[/quote]
Hey you never know, it could have been the equipment chick who gave me back my jersey before warmups tonight.  I asked her quite a few questions about the team's state of undress. :-P

[Josh '99]

[quote calgARI '07]It really does seem absord that McKee would have made up his mind already.  However, the coaches are recruiting another goalie.  That tells me that he's made his decision.[/quote]Recruiting another goalie, on its own, could simply mean that DiLeo decided to jump due to lack of playing time.  Not saying it does mean that, but it could.

[calgARI '07]

[quote jmh30][quote calgARI '07]It really does seem absord that McKee would have made up his mind already.  However, the coaches are recruiting another goalie.  That tells me that he's made his decision.[/quote]Recruiting another goalie, on its own, could simply mean that DiLeo decided to jump due to lack of playing time.  Not saying it does mean that, but it could.[/quote]

I think DiLeo knows his place.  He was not a highly ranked goaltender and was a very late commitment.  I think he knows he is Chabot's replacement and think he knows this.

[ugarte]

[quote calgARI '07]
I think DiLeo knows his place.  He was not a highly ranked goaltender and was a very late commitment.  I think he knows he is Chabot's replacement and think he knows this.[/quote]But does he think he knows it?