2006-7 Schedule

[Trotsky]

[quote nyc94]Get SC Johnson to donate the corporate jet again (I think it was '02 that they used the jet to ferry recruiters to the Johnson school).[/quote]

Hey, Ned flew his team in a jet called "Above it All." :-)

[jtwcornell91]

I suppose a home-and-home with MTU wouldn't do much for our schedule strength, but at least we have connections there.

[nyc94]

[quote Trotsky]Yep, it's almost certainly too late to get on any tier one schedule for 06-07, and maybe even for 07-08.  I'd love to see Cornell and Colgate do a traveling pair to Denver/CC, for example.  If there's any way of making any of this happen within budget, Schafer will work it.[/quote]

Is travel budget much of an issue?  Serious question as I have no idea.  It seems just about every other Cornell team finds money to hit the road.  What is it costing for the baseball and softball teams to spend a week on the road during Spring Break?  Or the basketball team to go to west coast over winter break?  Does hockey have to budget for possible NCAA travel costs?

[David Harding]

[quote nyc94][quote Trotsky]Yep, it's almost certainly too late to get on any tier one schedule for 06-07, and maybe even for 07-08.  I'd love to see Cornell and Colgate do a traveling pair to Denver/CC, for example.  If there's any way of making any of this happen within budget, Schafer will work it.[/quote]

Is travel budget much of an issue?  Serious question as I have no idea.  It seems just about every other Cornell team finds money to hit the road.  What is it costing for the baseball and softball teams to spend a week on the road during Spring Break?  Or the basketball team to go to west coast over winter break?  Does hockey have to budget for possible NCAA travel costs?[/quote]Hockey does go to Florida over winter break.  And it's one of the few teams that has to at least consider the possibility of multiple post-season games.

[DeltaOne81]

I don't think NCAAs are really an issue. Teams get a cut for making the NCAAs, which probably more than makes up for travel. At least it works that way in basketball.

[MCH \'94]

[quote Robb]Prepare to be really depressed...  :-/

The depressing part is that in those 26 games, we've gone 4-20-2.  Yep.  For those of you scoring at home, that's 0.192.  Our wins were BU twice in 2003, BU in 2002, and OSU in 2003.  We managed ties against Maine in 2000 and Michigan in 1997.  The only years that we've had more than 2 NC games against tourney teams were 2003 (3-2-0) and 1996 (0-3-0).

Ugh. Ugh. Ugh.   ::yark:: ::barf::[/quote]

Didn't we beat Mich St and Maine this past year?

[Townie]

[quote MCH '94][quote Robb]Prepare to be really depressed...  :-/

The depressing part is that in those 26 games, we've gone 4-20-2.  Yep.  For those of you scoring at home, that's 0.192.  Our wins were BU twice in 2003, BU in 2002, and OSU in 2003.  We managed ties against Maine in 2000 and Michigan in 1997.  The only years that we've had more than 2 NC games against tourney teams were 2003 (3-2-0) and 1996 (0-3-0).

Ugh. Ugh. Ugh.   ::yark:: ::barf::[/quote]

Didn't we beat Mich St and Maine this past year?[/quote]


I believe we split w/MSU and didn't play Maine in Estero.

[jtwcornell91]

[quote Townie][quote MCH '94][quote Robb]Prepare to be really depressed...  :-/

The depressing part is that in those 26 games, we've gone 4-20-2.  Yep.  For those of you scoring at home, that's 0.192.  Our wins were BU twice in 2003, BU in 2002, and OSU in 2003.  We managed ties against Maine in 2000 and Michigan in 1997.  The only years that we've had more than 2 NC games against tourney teams were 2003 (3-2-0) and 1996 (0-3-0).

Ugh. Ugh. Ugh.   ::yark:: ::barf::[/quote]

Didn't we beat Mich St and Maine this past year?[/quote]


I believe we split w/MSU and didn't play Maine in Estero.[/quote]

Also, Robb made that list before the NCAA field was set.

[nyc94]

[quote David Harding]Hockey does go to Florida over winter break.  And it's one of the few teams that has to at least consider the possibility of multiple post-season games.[/quote]

For some reason I had temporarily forgotten about Florida.  Probably because we go every year it doesn't stand out.  Are we locked into this thing in perpetuity?

[KeithK]

[quote nyc94][quote David Harding]Hockey does go to Florida over winter break.  And it's one of the few teams that has to at least consider the possibility of multiple post-season games.[/quote]

For some reason I had temporarily forgotten about Florida.  Probably because we go every year it doesn't stand out.  Are we locked into this thing in perpetuity?[/quote]We are the co-host, so yes we're "locked" into it.  I don't know if there's a contract or anything but I suspect we will continue as long as it's somewhat successful and continues to attract good teams.

[ursusminor]

[quote KeithK][quote nyc94][quote David Harding]Hockey does go to Florida over winter break.  And it's one of the few teams that has to at least consider the possibility of multiple post-season games.[/quote]

For some reason I had temporarily forgotten about Florida.  Probably because we go every year it doesn't stand out.  Are we locked into this thing in perpetuity?[/quote]We are the co-host, so yes we're "locked" into it.  I don't know if there's a contract or anything but I suspect we will continue as long as it's somewhat successful and continues to attract good teams.[/quote]
I heard a rumor about two years ago that RPI will be at the Florida tourney in 07-08, however these things have a habit of changing over a period of several years. If RPI is going, there goes the run of "good teams". :-/

[Trotsky]

[quote ursaminor]I heard a rumor about two years ago that RPI will be at the Florida tourney in 07-08, however these things have a habit of changing over a period of several years. If RPI is going, there goes the run of "good teams". :-/[/quote]

By then, who knows -- RPI may be having a renaissance under a new coach.

The budget issue isn't so much about the cost of travel, but the opportunity cost of forgoing home games.  Schafer has said flat out that we need as many home games as possible to make ends meet.

My answer to which is, 32-29=3.  3 more free dates, if someone can shoehorn apart the Ivy presidents' asscheeks and remove the stick from their collective butts.

[ursusminor]

[quote Trotsky][quote ursaminor]I heard a rumor about two years ago that RPI will be at the Florida tourney in 07-08, however these things have a habit of changing over a period of several years. If RPI is going, there goes the run of "good teams". :-/[/quote]

By then, who knows -- RPI may be having a renaissance under a new coach.[/quote] Well, I hope that is the case, but if I said so it would arouse the woofing Gods.

[quote Trotsky]My answer to which is, 32-29=3.  3 more free dates, if someone can shoehorn apart the Ivy presidents' asscheeks and remove the stick from their collective butts.[/quote] The problem about OOC games is that you have to find opponents. With the other conferences having fewer OOC dates available, you might have trouble filling the slots even if you were allowed to have them. Note that RPI, UC, QU, and 'Gate had to schedule a tourney among themselves for next season. I suspect that this is because both the HEA and the AHA are playing more league games. IMO, besides for allowing RPI to play at the Pepsi, which they haven't been able to do since the ECAC tourney moved from LP, it doesn't serve much of a useful purpose.

[nyc94]

[quote ursaminor]The problem about OOC games is that you have to find opponents. With the other conferences having fewer OOC dates available, you might have trouble filling the slots even if you were allowed to have them. Note that RPI, UC, QU, and 'Gate had to schedule a tourney among themselves for next season. I suspect that this is because both the HEA and the AHA are playing more league games. IMO, besides for allowing RPI to play at the Pepsi, which they haven't been able to do since the ECAC tourney moved from LP, it doesn't serve much of a useful purpose.[/quote]

I was going to suggest start by adding one game (30) plus allow the season to start one week earlier for scheduling flexibility.

[Trotsky]

[quote nyc94]I was going to suggest start by adding one game (30) plus allow the season to start one week earlier for scheduling flexibility.[/quote]

The early start would actually be more of a boon than adding games.  Our problem is that the other conferences have a big chunk of their NC games in October, because their regular seasons run so long.  Moving the season up two weeks would give us more of a shot at major conference opponents than adding two games.

Being greedy, I want both.  I like the idea of helping out the mino conferences, but it hurts in PWR, and from everything I gather it will hurt more when they finally adopt a modified KRACH.