12-12 Polls

[dargason]

No #1 for you, Miami....

USCHO.com/CSTV Division I Men's Poll

December 12, 2005
   Team   (FPV)   Record   Points   Last Poll
1   Wisconsin   (24)   14-2-2   774   1
2   Miami           (14)   12-2-2   764   2
3   Vermont           ( 2)   11-3-1   723   3
4   Minnesota      9-5-4   621   8
5   Boston College      9-4-1   619   6
6   Michigan      11-5-1   607   7
7   Colorado College   13-6-1   575   4
8   Cornell              8-3-1   483   9
9   Maine              11-5-0   468   10
10   North Dakota      10-7-1   447   5
11   Colgate              10-2-3   391   13
12   New Hampshire      9-6-3   330   12
13   Denver              9-7-2   328   11
14   Harvard              9-4-1   311   15
15   St. Lawrence      11-6-1   235   14
16   Clarkson      10-5-1   207   16
17   Providence      9-6-1   186   19
18   Lake Superior      9-5-4   93   NR
19   Bemidji State      9-4-1   58   17
20   Boston University   6-7-2   53   18

ORV: Ohio State 48, Nebraska-Omaha 21, Michigan State 16, Ferris State 11, 
Minnesota-Duluth 8, Northern Michigan 7, Mercyhurst 6, Alabama-Huntsville 2, 
Holy Cross 2, Niagara 2, Union 2, Dartmouth 1, St. Cloud State 1

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll

December 12, 2005
   Team                           Points   (FPV)   Last Poll  Record
1   University of Wisconsin           491   (21)   1   14-2-2
2   Miami (Ohio) University           482   (13)   2   12-2-2
3   University of Vermont           452      3   11-3-1
4   University of Minnesota           377      8   9-5-4
5   Boston College                   363      7   9-4-1
6   University of Michigan           352      6   11-5-1
7   Colorado College           282      5   13-6-1
8   University of Maine           245      10   11-5-0
9   University of North Dakota   197      4   10-7-1
10   Cornell University           156      13   8-3-1
11   Colgate University           152      12   10-2-3
12   University of New Hampshire   139      9   9-6-3
13   University of Denver           131      10   9-7-2
14   Harvard University           110      NR   9-4-1
15   Clarkson University            56      15   10-5-1

ORV: St. Lawrence University 52, Providence College 15, The Ohio State University 14,
Mercyhurst College 12, Boston University 2.

[Chris 02]

USA Today pollsters were clearly impressed with Doug Krantz having the hardest shot and being the fastest skater.

[dadeo]

It definately seems that the USCHO pollsters are a little bit biased (to Hockey Least)
New Hampshire is still in the same spot after losing to Ha (ahem) *sucks* in tragic fashion.  
Besides Miami (who almost lost to St. Lawrence) and Wisconsin, there are no really dominant teams this year.
Heck - CC lost to UM-Duluth, and Denver got SHUT OUT by UAA.  
I'll just stick to the PWR list and go from there.

[Ben Rocky '04]

Perhaps the fact that Jason L got his jersey signed on both sides knocked their socks off the most?  ::nut::

[DeltaOne81]

If polls mattered...

At this rate, it'd seem the best strategy for Schafer to take is to not schedule any games. We'd be #1 in no time!

[RichH]

[Q]dadeo Wrote:
I'll just stick to the PWR list and go from there.[/q]

Or KRACH: http://www.collegehockeynews.com/ratings/krach.php

[jkahn]

Collegehockeynews and Siouxsports http://siouxsports.com/hockey/rankings/combined.php
are currently reporting different KRACH rankings.
Any clues as to which is inaccurate?  The collegehockeynews page certainly appears to be a more complete presentation as it contains ratings as well as ranking.

[Robb]

Others on USCHO have previously reported that the Sioux sports site appears to lag by several days in getting their page updated.  The RPI page  seems to be quicker to update, but I bet that CHN is up-to-date as well.

[Mike K]

[Q]DeltaOne81 Wrote:

 If polls mattered...

At this rate, it'd seem the best strategy for Schafer to take is to not schedule any games. We'd be #1 in no time![/q]

haha beat me to it. I was just about to post the same message.

[French Rage]

Nobody does a bye week like us.

[ugarte]

[Q]French Rage Wrote:

 Nobody does a bye week like us.[/q]
You said it. We have a pretty common pattern this year: we go up when we don't play and go down when we do. Do we have to play in Estero?

[dadeo]

Well - If the NCAA used KRACH, i would look at it.  But - seeing as the NCAA go by strict guidelines.  (well, you know what i mean).  I will pay attention to them, seeing as I dont wanna go to MInny again in March.  Well, I will if I have to...but... rather be in Albany (has it seemed that the pepsi ice was any better last year btw)

[French Rage]

[Q]ugarte Wrote:

 [Q2]French Rage Wrote:

 Nobody does a bye week like us.[/Q]
You said it. We have a pretty common pattern this year: we go up when we don't play and go down when we do. Do we have to play in Estero?[/q]

Let's just send Chabot and only Chabot.

[Josh '99]

[Q]dadeo Wrote:
It definately seems that the USCHO pollsters are a little bit biased (to Hockey Least)[/q]
Vermont getting first-place votes demonstrates that pretty well.

[abmarks]

[Q]jmh30 Wrote:

 [Q2]dadeo Wrote:
It definately seems that the USCHO pollsters are a little bit biased (to Hockey Least)[/Q]
Vermont getting first-place votes demonstrates that pretty well.[/q]

Has anyone on this board that is regularly bashing Vermont actually seen them play this year?  I have.  And they are a very good team.  Very highly skilled and they come to play every night.  (In those respects, they have it over us on both measures).


I'm not sure where all the anti-Vermont sentiment has come from in the last 5-6 years or so, but people need to be a little objective.

Comparing the two polls re: HE cited teams in the top 15 (since usa today only goes 15 deep) there is only one difference between the two polls. All the teams are in the exact same spots except for Maine which is a spot higher in the USA Today.

USCHO            

3   Vermont           ( 2)   11-3-1   723   3
5   Boston College      9-4-1   619   6
9   Maine              11-5-0   468   10
12   New Hampshire      9-6-3   330   12


USAToday

3   University of Vermont           452      3   11-3-1
5   Boston College                   363      7   9-4-1
8   University of Maine           245      10   11-5-0
12   University of New Hampshire   139      9   9-6-3

Hockey East bias?  My ass.

And for you Krachies, CHN Krach has Vermont at #4.  So stop whining about Vermont being overrated unless they start losing and don't drop.  If we were 11-3-1 instead of 8-3-1 and at #4 you wouldn't be whining