What The Hell Do I Do? Injustice Maybe?

[ben03]

establishing a clear path along the glass is by no stretch a new idea. in fact, most any building constructed in the last 20+ years (maybe longer didn’t look it up) it is mandated by code. Lynah is grandfathered into the existing code from when it was built in the late 50’s. it appears they're trying to make things as safe as possible by having a clear path along the glass to access any possible emergencies that may arise.  probably for the best.

[A-19]

this thing happens all the time.

i was ejected from a game in 03-04 for saying "fuck em up, go cu" but i was allowed back in the next game. i wrote an angry letter to athletics claiming that i was being made an example of-- given where the usher was, there was absolutely no way he could have seen me or heard me. i was an exceptionally loud fan and i felt that booting me sent an example to the students.

a guy i knew was ejected for "what's the color of shit? brown." the usher claimed to see his lips moving, but he was wearing a jason goalie mask.

then there's the whole nick linder thing. kid didn't even say the right cheer (lose).

it seems like they are more strict on this kinda thing now.

my first trip back to lynah since graduating, i was thrown out because the usher claimed i threw a fish. mind you i was in section O and there's a huge stuffed reindeer on the ice in front of me. the thing is, the ushers throw you to the police then the police blame the ushers (there's nothing i can do...). it absolves both parties from any responsibility, and there is no such thing as an appeal. the trick is, once they get you physically outside the rink, you are done. oh, and if you refuse to leave the rink, they threaten you with arrest for disobeying an officer. it turned out that i was able to find gene and indicate (with receipt and all) that i had in fact purchased a stuffed animal which was sitting evidently on the ice. needless to say, the usher and cop were none too happy to see me back.

as several others have said, i doubt they took your tickets. they may have written your seat down, but there is no way of showing that the individual in your seat is you or a friend of yours (is your seat invalid, or just you personally?). at this rate, if the seat becomes invalid, we're gonna start having an attendance problem...

and i can also guarantee that some individuals associated with athletics and cupd and other admin. depts in the university skim this board. those that do it aren't necessarily the mean-spirited ones of course.

-mike '04

[RabidSewerRat]

[Q]oceanst41 Wrote:

Later in the game Saturday that same old usher then walked down the first row of A asking to see everyone's ticket to verify their seats. This was even though everyone was standing comfortably on the bench. After booting a few friends a few rows back in A, we discussed this policy with him. He basically said his hands were tied and he was being forced to do it, but "if we could fit them on the bench" then he didn't care. [/q]
Because (I was told) a girl showed up mid-game and found people in her seat (how shocking....) and so she went to complain to the usher, who then was forced to do something.

[oceanst41]

Probably for the best, but it is weird that they enacted it last night for the first time. And they told us as much when they were doing it. They definitely eluded to the face that it was because of the puck hitting the girl in B, EMS never tried to pass in front of A then either.

It wasn't until the puck went into Section A, and then bounced of a friend's hand back onto the ice, that EMS walked over to see if everyone was alright.

[oceanst41]

I did hear that there were a few fans who showed up in the third to find their seats crowded. They were mad that they couldn't sit down because people were standing too close.  ::twitch::

[jtwcornell91]

I suppose this is a side effect of making the ticket process a sprint rather than a marathon: you end up with "fans" who see no problem with showing up to the student section in the middle of the game and demanding a particular piece of bench.

[Brian]

Of course if you really wanted to get under the athletic dept. skin you could start sitting in the townie section along with everyone else that gets kicked out.  Eventually they would realize that by having the students swearing on one side isn't so bad because they are away from the elders and youngsters who I'm sure donate a lot of money to athletics.  Your goal would be to create havoc elsewhere to make them realize it wasn't so bad the way it was before!

[Trotsky]

You should also be respectful of the fact that there is a large section of adult, longtime, fans who for the ridiculously selfish reason of raising children, such as the students were only a couple years ago, or in many cases, still, object to profanity in their section.  Planting yourself in the townie section and releasing a few F-bombs may seem like vintage 1848 popular rebellion if you're a sophomore with delusions of social relevance... but to the rest of us, it just means you're an idiot.

It's pretty simple.  If you see ushers lurking, try to restrain yourself.  But if you chant "Laing sucks!" at the top of your lungs, expect appropriate retaliation (like Mrs. Kennedy beating you repeatedly with her umbrella.. absolutely the best feedback I've ever received, er, I mean, just theoretically.)

[LynahFaithfulS]

[Q]Jason L Wrote:
  "I LOVE YOU" and "I LOVE JUICE" have the same lip/mouth movements.  [/q]

likewise with "vacuum" and "fuck you"

A lot of people have made a lot of good points here, and I agree with the vast majority of them...for one, i agree that ctenah getting kicked out is unfair...unfortunately, it's true that they DO announce at the begining of games and write on the back of the ticket that it can be revoked.

if they're going to kick someone out for swearing...at least do it when the person says "fuck 'em up," at least there's a valid argument for that...

and on a side note, ctenah--i commend you for being a freshman AND knowing the cheers :-)

[Free11Skier]

If we really want to be careful, we should replace 'goon' -- it's a pretty bad word -- with something else.  I suggest 'lose'.

[ctenah]

Thank you for the support, everyone.  I pride myself in being one of the few freshmen who surf eLynah, know the cheers, and make a habit of going to every game.  You might notice I started the "Kill, Red, Kill" cheer the first two or three times at the RPI game...Cornell Hockey is absolutely amazing.

Anyway, yeah.  It sucks.  I think I might write a letter to Gene or something of that sort.  I will tell the truth, just as I told the truth to the usher, but I am most upset about the fact that the team I love and support is being taken from me.  I'm not sure how they take away one's season tickets, though.  But what upsets me even more than ANYTHING, is the fact that a fan was verbally cautioned for substantialy crude, solitary sexually explicit cursing at the opposite goalie, when...well, the same usher wouldn't even tell me what I had said to offend him, and kicked me out of the game.  That's injustice.  If I had been warned, if even that fan had been kicked out as well, then there'd be justice.

But to kick someone out for saying asshole along with 2000 other fans, yet simply yell at a crude fan for saying the goalie's grandfather fucked his dad is....well, horrible.

Thanks to everyone for their support in this matter.  If any members of the athletic department are reading this, as I'm sure they are, then I ask them to be fairer in the future.  Making examples of the most die-hard fans, including others unnamed here, simply for the sake of making an example is further deleterious to the positive crowd support of the team.  



And by the way, the girl who was hit with the puck stands immediately to my left.  EMS never came. The fans cleared and escorted her out of the aisle promptly.  

[BMac]

Good luck getting your tickets back.

Incidentally, since everyone brought this up: I sit in A. Those guys who got sent to the top of the section don't normally sit there and they made the bench ridiculously crowded.

My friends and I who normally sit in row 5 of A were quite crowded ourselves- I was kind of glad that those people were sent back up. After all, it is unfair to make season-ticket holders who get there on time and sit in the same place every game squeeze into another place. (Not that I would ask the ushers to do anything for me... bunch of unpleasant, disgruntled employees.)

[Beeeej]

[Q]billhoward Wrote:
I like when the fans yell "Red!" during the anthem and I also understand how older fans, especially if they served and especially if they got shot at, might bristle at that.[/q]

Speaking of which, there were a few male students in Section B last night still wearing their ballcaps during the anthem.  I would have bristled at that even if I hadn't been sitting in front of a WWII navy pilot.  Not cool.

Beeeej

[gatitita '05]

what about the Alma Mater? does anyone know that they are supposed to remove their hats for it?  

[ben03]

i've never had a problem telling complete strangers that they are being disrespectful regardless of how much of an ass i may look like in the process. in fact a few seasons ago (‘02-‘03), some might remember nathan marsters not facing the flag during the anthems … i politely reminded him he was being disrespectful ... asshole