Polls 11/7

[dbilmes]

USA TODAY/American Hockey men's poll

Nov. 7, 2005

    Team (first-place votes)  Record    Points   LW
 1. Colorado College (30)     9-1-0      502      1                  
 2. Michigan (2)              7-1-1      474      3
 3. Cornell (2)               3-1-0      408      4
 4. Maine                     8-2-0      392      2                  
 5. Wisconsin                 6-1-1      369     10
 6. Michigan State            5-1-1      353      8
 7. Denver                    5-3-0      282      9
 8. Vermont                   7-1-0      250      7
 9. Boston College            3-2-1      197     11
10. Miami (Ohio)              5-1-0      186     15  
11. North Dakota              5-4-1      148      5
12. New Hampshire             4-3-1      138     12  
13. Minnesota                 3-3-2      136      6
14. Boston University         3-2-0       59     NR
15. Alaska-Fairbanks          4-2-2       50     NR
Others receiving votes: St. Lawrence 36, Colgate 32, Providence 22, Bemidji State 19, Quinnipiac 16, Mercyhurst 9, Ohio State 2.


USCHO.com/CSTV Division I Men's Poll
November 7, 2005
Team   (First Place Votes)   Record   Points   Last Poll
1   Colorado College   (39)   9-1-0   798   1
2   Michigan      7-1-1   740   3
3   Cornell   ( 1)   3-1-0   678   4
4   Maine      8-2-0   664   2
5   Wisconsin      6-1-1   631   9
6   Michigan State      5-1-1   608   8
7   Denver      5-3-0   514   10
8   Boston College      3-2-1   465   11
9   Vermont      7-1-0   464   6
10   North Dakota      5-4-1   382   5
11   Miami      5-1-0   376   16
12   Minnesota      3-3-2   356   7
13   New Hampshire      4-3-1   355   12
14   Boston University      3-2-0   244   19
15   Alaska-Fairbanks      4-2-2   225   17
16   St. Lawrence      6-2-0   166   20
17   Colgate      5-1-1   152   NR
18   Bemidji State      5-1-0   129   18
19   Northern Michigan      5-3-0   129   14
20   Quinnipiac      8-2-0   92   NR
Others Receiving Votes: Harvard 82, Providence 52, Ohio State 48, Minnesota-Duluth 16, Mercyhurst 9, Clarkson 8, Rensselaer 8, Nebraska-Omaha 5, Lake Superior 2, Princeton 2



moving up despite unimpressive performances... and Princeton?

[ugarte]

Dammit. Alone in the top 15 again. EZAC, say the voters. We have three others in the top 20, though. *sigh*

[Liz '05]

[Q]ugarte Wrote:

 Dammit. Alone in the top 15 again. EZAC, say the voters. We have three others in the top 20, though. *sigh*[/q]

Do we still have the best interleague record?  If so, we really shouldn't be punished too much for losing to each other (see WCHA teams that lose and lose and still maintain top 15 status for their potential and strength of schedule).

I'd be happier if we had more teams in the poll.  I'll accept dominating the "Also receiving votes."

[DeltaOne81]

It's funny that QU cracks the "top 20" by beating two teams not in the "top 20"  ::help::  Go SLU and 'Gate! (except against us)


We have the best inter-conference record (.643) to the CCHA's .588 and HEA's .529 (others under .500).

However, we have the second best record against the Big-4 (.517) to the CCHA's .571 (all under's under .500).

So a decent amount of our best interconference record comes at the expense of the AHA and CHA, but even without that we still top HEA and the WCHA, interconference wise. It'll be interesting to see how those extra wins end up affecting the later season KRACH/RPI. A good Christmas tournament season for the ECAC (and a good Beanpawt... ha! just kidding!) would go a long ways towards solidifying that.

[Josh '99]

[Q]dbilmes Wrote:
moving up despite unimpressive performances...[/q]I guess the logic is, the wins might have been impressive, but a home loss (Maine to BU yesterday) is still worse.

[dadeo]

oh wait, vermont is the evil stepchild, i forgot

[dadeo]

now what coach/writer would give princeton a top 20 spot??
any guesses?

[KeithK]

[Q]now what coach/writer would give princeton a top 20 spot??
any guesses?[/q]Keep in mind that 20th best team in D1 translates to somewhere around a .500 record.  In other words, you don't have to be very good to rank that high.  That said, I don't think Princeton will be even that good, but who knows?

[dadeo]

well top 27 count towards pwr (maybe more now that RIT is herE??)

also - does anyone know when they start the RPI and PWR again?

[Josh '99]

And the USCHO poll...

1  Colorado College (39) 9-1-0 798  1 
2  Michigan              7-1-1 740  3 
3  Cornell          ( 1) 3-1-0 678  4 
4  Maine                 8-2-0 664  2 
5  Wisconsin             6-1-1 631  9 
6  Michigan State        5-1-1 608  8 
7  Denver                5-3-0 514 10 
8  Boston College        3-2-1 465 11 
9  Vermont               7-1-0 464  6 
10 North Dakota          5-4-1 382  5 
11 Miami                 5-1-0 376 16 
12 Minnesota             3-3-2 356  7 
13 New Hampshire         4-3-1 355 12 
14 Boston University     3-2-0 244 19 
15 Alaska-Fairbanks      4-2-2 225 17 
16 St. Lawrence          6-2-0 166 20 
17 Colgate               5-1-1 152 NR 
18 Bemidji State         5-1-0 129 18 
19 Northern Michigan     5-3-0 129 14 
20 Quinnipiac            8-2-0  92 NR 

Others Receiving Votes: Harvard 82, Providence 52, Ohio State 48,
Minnesota-Duluth 16, Mercyhurst 9, Clarkson 8, Rensselaer 8, 
Nebraska-Omaha 5, Lake Superior 2, Princeton 2 

[billhoward]

[Q]KeithK Wrote:

 [Q2]now what coach/writer would give princeton a top 20 spot??
any guesses?[/Q]
Keep in mind that 20th best team in D1 translates to somewhere around a .500 record.  In other words, you don't have to be very good to rank that high.  That said, I don't think Princeton will be even that good, but who knows?[/q]Among ~ 58 D1 hockey teams, the most likely to be at .500 would be #29, I would think. It's possible those ranked 20 to 40 could all be around .500, but the likeliest to be in the middle is the team in the middle.

[KeithK]

[q]does anyone know when they start the RPI and PWR again?[/q]Who do you mean by "they"?  If you mean USCHO, then they start showing PWR sometime in January.  It doesn't really mean very much before then.  But I wouldn't be surprised if some of the usual hockey geeks start compiling it earlier, for what it's worth.  (NO, Whelan doesn't have it posted yet...)

[KeithK]

[q]Among ~ 58 D1 hockey teams, the most likely to be at .500 would be #29, I would think. It's possible those ranked 20 to 40 could all be around .500, but the likeliest to be in the middle is the team in the middle.[/q]But, of course,  poll ranking isn't simply based on winning percentage.  It takes into account perceptions of schedule strength, etc.  The polls track PWR pretty well later in the season and I'd bet that the team ranked #20 in PWR is not too far from a .500 win pct., esp. since they started using RPI > ,5000 as the cutoff for TUC instead of Pct. > .500.

Besides, I never defined what "around .500" meant.  :-P

[dadeo]

what about the second accident duplicate post (see post #1 in this thread)

[Josh '99]

That wasn't an accident, that was formatted.  :-P