[FB]Brown at Cornell

[Tub(a)]

1st down, ball at the 47 with 4:25 left.

[Trotsky]

4th and 3 on the 46.  This is it.

[Trotsky]

Incomplete.  Oh well.

[ugarte]

Cornell has begun calling desperation timeouts. 2:55 remaining. 3d and 13 for Brown at their own 43. One TO left.

[ugarte]

Wrap it up. Brown 38, Cornell 24 in a game that the Red could have won. Probably setting up Brown v. Penn to decide if the championship is split between them or if Penn takes it themselves.

[Scersk '97]

Bah, I predict that two losses will "win" (tie for) the championship for only the third time in the history of the League.  Let's go parity!

Of course, in my mind, this all depends on a Big Red Franklin Field victory to tie it all up.  I won't say "improbable Franklin Field victory," since, contrary to my instincts, we're not that bad in games against Penn when the Ivy title is on the line (defined as having a chance to win or share the title if things go our way on the last weekend):

Year  H/A  Winner     Ivy Champ(s)
1958  A    Cornell    Dartmouth
1971  A    Cornell    Cornell/Dartmouth
1980  H    Cornell    Yale
1986  H    Penn       Penn  (Ivy Bowl)
1988  H    Cornell    Penn/Cornell  (Ivy Bowl)
1990  H    Cornell    Cornell/Dartmouth
1995  A    Penn       Princeton
1999  A    Cornell    Yale/Brown
2000  H    Penn       Penn (Ivy Bowl)

My perceptions are skewed probably due to being in the stands for two crushing, championship-losing games against Penn.  (1995 and 2000.)

Damn those Princeton sissies for playing for the tie in 1995!  

[ugarte]

[Q]Scersk '97 Wrote:
1990  H    Cornell    Cornell/Dartmouth[/Q]
That was a great game. Running on the field isn't as much fun as climbing over the glass, but it was still pretty f'n great. Seeing how big Chris Cochrane was in person shocked the hell out of me.

[Q] Damn those Princeton sissies for playing for the tie in 1995![/q]
Would it have mattered? Didn't Penn beat us by 40?

[Scersk '97]

[Q]ugarte Wrote:
[Q2]Scersk '97 Wrote:

Damn those Princeton sissies for playing for the tie in 1995![/Q2]
Would it have mattered? Didn't Penn beat us by 40?[/Q]
Yep.  The top of the standings before the game were:

Cornell     5-1
Princeton   5-1
Penn        4-2
Dartmouth   4-2

We were playing Penn and Princeton was playing Dartmouth.  Obviously, all teams involved had something to play for.

Seeing that we were being dismantled by Penn, Princeton, with some time yet remaining, kicked a field goal from the one on first and goal to tie and win the title.  First and goal.  First and goal! Pardon my language, but I consider that a real pussy move--worthy of the "Tigers."

My nascent dislike of Princeton and the clubby smarminess for which it stands took a giant leap towards mature hatred that day.

[ugarte]

[Q]Scersk '97 Wrote:

 [Q2]ugarte Wrote:
[Q2]Scersk '97 Wrote:

Damn those Princeton sissies for playing for the tie in 1995![/Q]
Would it have mattered? Didn't Penn beat us by 40?[/Q]
Yep.  The top of the standings before the game were:
Cornell     5-1
Princeton   5-1
Penn        4-2
Dartmouth   4-2
We were playing Penn and Princeton was playing Dartmouth.  Obviously, all teams involved had something to play for.

Seeing that we were being dismantled by Penn, Princeton, with some time yet remaining, kicked a field goal from the one on first and goal to tie and win the title.  First and goal.  First and goal! Pardon my language, but I consider that a real pussy move--worthy of the "Tigers."

My nascent dislike of Princeton and the clubby smarminess for which it stands took a giant leap towards mature hatred that day.[/q]
Aha. Still that was a really odd Cornell team. I think we won our five games by a total of 9 points, mostly because of missed short FGs and XPs. Getting a piece of that title would have been weird.

[Scersk '97]

[Q]ugarte Wrote:
Still that was a really odd Cornell team. I think we won our five games by a total of 9 points, mostly because of missed short FGs and XPs. Getting a piece of that title would have been weird.[/q]
The year before was strange as well.  That was the 6 and 0 / 0 and 4 season.  But Penn was running away with the league that season, so it didn't hurt as much.

In 1995, actually, we handled Brown, Yale, and Columbia rather well.  You must be thinking of the close wins vs. Harvard and Dartmouth.  We also had a very close loss against Princeton.  In the mist, whilst driving for a winning score, I'll remember, "Joyce goes down!  Joyce goes down!  Joyce goes down!"

Considering what had happened the week before the Penn game http://www.tbrw.info/boxScores/box19951111.html, and what was to happen later on http://www.tbrw.info/boxScores/box19960316.html, I can't really complain too much about that year.  I know a certain friend of mine who wears a 96 Cornell football jersey who has some unresolved issues, though...

[jtwcornell91]

[Q]ugarte Wrote:
Aha. Still that was a really odd Cornell team. I think we won our five games by a total of 9 points, mostly because of missed short FGs and XPs. Getting a piece of that title would have been weird.[/q]

I think you're thinking of the 2000 team, not 1995.

[jtwcornell91]

[Q]Scersk '97 Wrote:

 [Q2]ugarte Wrote:
[Q2]Scersk '97 Wrote:

Damn those Princeton sissies for playing for the tie in 1995![/Q]
Would it have mattered? Didn't Penn beat us by 40?[/Q]
Yep.  The top of the standings before the game were:
Cornell     5-1
Princeton   5-1
Penn        4-2
Dartmouth   4-2
We were playing Penn and Princeton was playing Dartmouth.  Obviously, all teams involved had something to play for.

Seeing that we were being dismantled by Penn, Princeton, with some time yet remaining, kicked a field goal from the one on first and goal to tie and win the title.  First and goal.  First and goal! Pardon my language, but I consider that a real pussy move--worthy of the "Tigers."

My nascent dislike of Princeton and the clubby smarminess for which it stands took a giant leap towards mature hatred that day.[/q]

Actually, I remember celebrating the news that Princeton had come back to tie it.  It meant we didn't get a share of the Ivy title, but dammit, it also meant Penn didn't get one either!