Cornell All-Access

Started by DeltaOne81, August 31, 2005, 09:18:38 AM

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DeltaOne81

Interesting offer.

http://allaccess.cstv.com/subscriptions/index.jsp?sid=700&catCode=700

I wish they would lay out exactly what it includes. Hockey video? Lacrosse video?  Video of what and audio of what? Does anyone know. Might be tempting if it really is 'all access'.

Al DeFlorio

[Q]DeltaOne81 Wrote:

 Interesting offer.



I wish they would lay out exactly what it includes. Hockey video? Lacrosse video?  Video of what and audio of what? Does anyone know. Might be tempting if it really is 'all access'.[/q]
Yes, it seems deliberately vague.  What exactly are "home team calls?"  Prospective subscribers really need to know which "50 LIVE" games are included.  And which will be video as opposed to just audio.  And will audio be synched with video.

Most of the other stuff is eyewash, and Gametracker was free last year.  "News, Scores, and Highlights" sounds like what cornellbigred.com is supposed to be for.  So far it appears to be the usual empty hype with little specific substance.  If this announcement came into my email I'd quickly forward it to "missed-spam@comcast.net."  Cornell Athletics continues to disappoint, I regret to have to say.

Al DeFlorio '65

DeltaOne81

[Q]Al DeFlorio Wrote:
 If this announcement came into my email I'd quickly forward it to "missed-spam@comcast.net."  Cornell Athletics continues to disappoint, I regret to have to say.[/q]

You'll be happy to know then that I had to fish this one out of the junk folder ;) (not kidding).

I'm thinking of contacting Cornell and seeing if I can get more details. If anyone has any personal knowledge of what this will or won't include, please do share.

Trotsky

If Cornell already has signed exclusive agreements to put their game feeds on proprietary systems, they will have painted themselves into a corner if they are trying to set up their own outlet.

But in principle, I would love it if schools went to their own distribution, rather than pouring their feeds into generic, multi-school outlets.  By definition, Cornell knows their own schedules and changes better than a Walmart-like distributor, they will find it easier to call the booth at Lynah and tell the tech that he just knocked the plug out of the board, and they will be incentified to deliver better service so as not to piss off the alumni.  If they have the system in place, it would even be worth buying out of their existing contracts, IMHO.

If it worked, and it was a central source for all hockey, football, and lax feeds, I would pay a lot more than I pay now.

IF it worked.

Al DeFlorio

[Q]Trotsky Wrote:
But in principle, I would love it if schools went to their own distribution, rather than pouring their feeds into generic, multi-school outlets.  By definition, Cornell knows their own schedules and changes better than a Walmart-like distributor, they will find it easier to call the booth at Lynah and tell the tech that he just knocked the plug out of the board, and they will be incentified to deliver better service so as not to piss off the alumni.  If they have the system in place, it would even be worth buying out of their existing contracts, IMHO.
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It concerns me, however, that the web site touting all these wonders is allaccess.cstv.com.

Al DeFlorio '65

crodger1

[Q]Al DeFlorio Wrote:

 [Q2]DeltaOne81 Wrote:
Interesting offer.

I wish they would lay out exactly what it includes. Hockey video? Lacrosse video?  Video of what and audio of what? Does anyone know. Might be tempting if it really is 'all access'.[/Q]
Yes, it seems deliberately vague.  What exactly are "home team calls?"  Prospective subscribers really need to know which "50 LIVE" games are included.  And which will be video as opposed to just audio.  And will audio be synched with video.

[/q]

From their website description:
[q]It's the best seat in our house - with exclusive live game audio, video, features, interviews, coaches' shows and more! Membership in All-Access brings the passion, tradition and excitement of our teams directly to you with comprehensive, easy-to access multimedia coverage.[/q]

I don't understand that to include any live video.  Sounds to me like a replacement to the Realplayer sportspass subscription thing they had for the radio audio feed last year.  I see "live game audio", then "video".  In the details part it says "On-Demand video and audio clips from campus", which to me means some archived video footage, but not whole games nor live.  I think by home call they mean just that -- the call.  No video feed.

Just my 3 cents worth (mirroring gas price inflation).

Crodge

Al DeFlorio

[Q]crodger1 Wrote:
I don't understand that to include any live video.  Sounds to me like a replacement to the Realplayer sportspass subscription thing they had for the radio audio feed last year. [/q]
I think you're exactly right.  And it looks like Gametracker may now be brought under the fee umbrella, too.

Al DeFlorio '65

French Rage

As for 50 games, that could be full seasons of only two sports we dont care about, for all we know.
03/23/02: Maine 4, Harvard 3
03/28/03: BU 6, Harvard 4
03/26/04: Maine 5, Harvard 4
03/26/05: UNH 3, Harvard 2
03/25/06: Maine 6, Harvard 1

redice

[Q]Al DeFlorio Wrote:

 [Q2]crodger1 Wrote:
I don't understand that to include any live video.  Sounds to me like a replacement to the Realplayer sportspass subscription thing they had for the radio audio feed last year. [/Q]
I think you're exactly right.  And it looks like Gametracker may now be brought under the fee umbrella, too.[/q]


They're going to need a major upgrade for Gametracker to worth any (even minimal) fee.   Gametracker updates are painfully slow.   I'm not sure it's "free" is a suitable fee.
"If a player won't go in the corners, he might as well take up checkers."

-Ned Harkness

jkahn

I continue to think that the administration is missing a good opportunity here.  The easier it is (i.e. free, easy access to games) for alumni to stay connected, the bigger the eventual payback.  One example is how many of us quickly pitched in to finance the Pep Band trip to Minnesota, just because we were connected to the hockey program via eLynah.  
Also, I think it would be a great recruiting tool to have the games easily available to future Cornellians.  It would be great if those in the Nanaimo locker room could quickly tune to watch last year's teammate play for Cornell.  Being able to watch the games from Lynah could sway a decision in favor of going to Cornell.  Right now, the recruit might listen to Cornell by tuning into the free broadcasts of Brown, Dartmouth, Harvard, etc.  Similarly, parents and siblings of players would benefit as well.
Jeff Kahn '70 '72

Al DeFlorio

[Q]jkahn Wrote:

 I continue to think that the administration is missing a good opportunity here.  The easier it is (i.e. free, easy access to games) for alumni to stay connected, the bigger the eventual payback.  One example is how many of us quickly pitched in to finance the Pep Band trip to Minnesota, just because we were connected to the hockey program via eLynah.  
Also, I think it would be a great recruiting tool to have the games easily available to future Cornellians.  It would be great if those in the Nanaimo locker room could quickly tune to watch last year's teammate play for Cornell.  Being able to watch the games from Lynah could sway a decision in favor of going to Cornell.  Right now, the recruit might listen to Cornell by tuning into the free broadcasts of Brown, Dartmouth, Harvard, etc.  Similarly, parents and siblings of players would benefit as well.[/q]
I think it's called "penny-wise and pound-foolish."  We tried to tell 'em but, of course, they knew better.

Al DeFlorio '65

jtwcornell91

[Q]Al DeFlorio Wrote:

It concerns me, however, that the web site touting all these wonders is allaccess.cstv.com.[/q]

Especially since CSTV is owns CollegeSports.com.  OTOH, if they do have the away audio and the home video on the same subscription service, that would work for us.

Let's ask nicely to the folks at Athletics just what this entails before writing this off as another mistake.


KeithK

[q]Let's ask nicely to the folks at Athletics just what this entails before writing this off as another mistake.[/q]Yes, we should give them the benefit of the doubt... and THEN pillory them for being stupid.  :-D

Chris 02

[Q]crodger1 Wrote:

Just my 3 cents worth (mirroring gas price inflation).

Crodge[/q]

Here in Iowa, prices jumped from about 2.52 to 3.09 in two days!

marty

What frosts me is that Colgate "gets it" and the AD at Cornell doesn't.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."