How big a loss is Shane?

[Will]

With Shane's departure, the team has voted and the new assistant captain will be Chris Abbott: http://www.cornellsun.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/08/26/430e7f03a536f

[Rich S]

Ralph,

Do you consider any of the ECAC schools to be "jock schools"?

[ursusminor]

[Q]Rich S Wrote:

 Ralph,

Do you consider any of the ECAC schools to be "jock schools"?[/q] No. I don't think that any of the schools admit athletes who don't have a prayer of graduating. Whom are you thinking of?

Then again, I must admit that I know virtually nothing about the Fighting Deerticks.

[Rich S]

[Q]ursaminor Wrote:

 [Q2]Rich S Wrote:

 Ralph,

Do you consider any of the ECAC schools to be "jock schools"?[/Q]
No. I don't think that any of the schools admit athletes who don't have a prayer of graduating. Whom are you thinking of?

Then again, I must admit that I know virtually nothing about the Fighting Deerticks.[/q]

I didn't have any ECAC school in mind, was wondering if you did based on your previous comment.   Frankly, from my experience I don't see a bit of difference between players leaving from the Ivy schools and those leaving the non-Ivies in the ECAC.

 I don't even know who the Deerticks are.  

:-D

[Josh '99]

[Q]Rich S Wrote:Do you consider any of the ECAC schools to be "jock schools"?[/q]For what it's worth, about 8 years ago Sports Illustrated published a list of what it termed the "Top 50 Jock Schools" in the country.  Princeton came in at #10.  Obviously some of the points they make to support this conclusion ("Princeton dominated the Ivy League in 1995-96 like no school before...") are dated, but I suppose some of them still hold true.

[DeltaOne81]

[Q]Rich S Wrote:
 I don't even know who the Deerticks are.  
 [/q]

Quinnipiac, who, when they were searching for a new name, were temporarily coined the (Fighting) Deerticks in replace of the _______ . And it kinda stuck among certain groups.

[Robb]

...namely the USCHO message board and/or hockey-l crowds.  Certainly not in any official places.

[Trotsky]

[Q]DeltaOne81 Wrote:
Quinnipiac, who, when they were searching for a new name, were temporarily coined the (Fighting) Deerticks in replace of the _______ . And it kinda stuck among certain groups.[/q]

To many of us, they will forever be the Skating Deerticks, just as SLU are the Fighting Saints in other sports but the Skating Saints in hockey.

[KeithK]

[q]For what it's worth, about 8 years ago Sports Illustrated published a list of what it termed the "Top 50 Jock Schools" in the country. Princeton came in at #10. Obviously some of the points they make to support this conclusion ("Princeton dominated the Ivy League in 1995-96 like no school before...") are dated, but I suppose some of them still hold true.[/q]Yeah, and I've been on teams that have dominated in slow pitch softball leagues.  That didn't make us baseball powerhouses...

I guess it all depends on how you define "jock school".  If it's a school that has many and varied varsity athletic programs that are successful then Princeton (and other Ivies as well) certainly qualify.  If it means a school that admits lots of dumb jocks simply to do well in sports without caring how they do in classes then the Ivies and probably all of the ECAC don't qualify.  

[Trotsky]

Meanwhile, my wife just found a top ten list of schools where students do the least study.  No, Brown did not make the list, but SUNY-Albany did. :-)

[ursusminor]

Princeton's coaches  may be trying to make it a jock school, but their admission office seems to be fighting this. There is a thread on USCHO that mentions that about half of the players who the hockey staff recruited for the entering class this fall were not admitted.

[KeithK]

[Q]Princeton's coaches  may be trying to make it a jock school, but their admission office seems to be fighting this. There is a thread on USCHO that mentions that about half of the players who the hockey staff recruited for the entering class this fall were not admitted.[/q]
Wouldn't be a shock considering that Gadowsky came to Princeton after 5 years at UAf, which presumably has much less stringent admissions requirements than the folks at College of New Jersey do.

As much as I would prefer the Tigers to not be laughingstocks of college hockey that they have been for several years now, I hope the admission officers do hold the line.

[calgARI '07]

Princeton will be decent this year.

[ugarte]

[Q]Trotsky Wrote:

 Meanwhile, my wife just found a top ten list of schools where students do the least study.  No, Brown did not make the list, but SUNY-Albany did.  [/q]That's certainly what I observed (and lived) when I was at Albany.

[Will]

[Q]calgARI '07 Wrote:

 Princeton will be decent this year.[/q]

I'll believe it when I see it.