2/4: Cornell @ Colgate Postgame

Started by atb9, February 04, 2005, 09:40:36 PM

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Al DeFlorio

Iggulden-Chris Abbott-Knoepfli is an unusual line combination.  Does anyone remember if this line played together earlier in the game, or did the coaches put it together specifically for this late-game situation?
Al DeFlorio '65

TShen

[Q]Al DeFlorio Wrote:

 Iggulden-Chris Abbott-Knoepfli is an unusual line combination.  Does anyone remember if this line played together earlier in the game, or did the coaches put it together specifically for this late-game situation?[/q]

I thought Chris was paired with Cam and Sawada before this weekend. Did the coach shuffle the lines again? If so, what were the lines for last night?
Tom Shen '01 MEng'02

Al DeFlorio

[Q]TShen Wrote:

 [Q2]Al DeFlorio Wrote:

 Iggulden-Chris Abbott-Knoepfli is an unusual line combination.  Does anyone remember if this line played together earlier in the game, or did the coaches put it together specifically for this late-game situation?[/Q]
I thought Chris was paired with Cam and Sawada before this weekend. Did the coach shuffle the lines again? If so, what were the lines for last night?[/q]
The Abbott-Abbott-Sawada was listed on livestats as one of the four lines.  Iggulden was listed with Varteressian and Carefoot, and Knoepfli with Pegoraro and Scott.  So somebody chose one from column A, one from column B, and one from column C for the "big" face-off after Colgate's time-out.  Perhaps Abbott for the draw, and the Iggulden/Knoepfli pairing for their defensive skills?
Al DeFlorio '65

Anne 85

Since the faceoff was in the defensive zone, I suspect Chris Abbott was on to take a critical faceoff.  I've seen Coach make this substitution a number of times in the last few games.

Jim Hyla

Well, I think the board play by Knoepfli is settled. Both the IJ and Syracuse Post-Standard say he deflected it. Here's the quote:[Q]The Big Red won the draw, and senior defenseman Jeremy Downs wrapped the puck behind the net and up the boards toward teammate Mike Knoepfli. A Colgate player pinched in from the point in an attempt to keep the puck in the Cornell end, but Knoepfli used his body as a shield and let the puck carom off his skate and up the ice. There, Chris Abbott picked it up and flew toward Siverthorn with teammate Mike Iggulden trailing and only one defender back. [/Q]It now makes sense since the puck changed direction, going toward the boards and then away, and also came out less than cleanly.

Here's the link http://www.syracuse.com/printer/printer.ssf?/base/sports-0/1107596148127823.xml
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

billhoward

1) This Post-Standard story had the clearest explanation yet of the lone goal.
>>> The game appeared destined to end in a scoreless tie when Colgate called a timeout with 1:44 to play and a faceoff due to be dropped to McKee's right.  ... The Big Red won the draw, and senior defenseman Jeremy Downs wrapped the puck behind the net and up the boards toward teammate Mike Knoepfli. A Colgate player pinched in from the point in an attempt to keep the puck in the Cornell end, but Knoepfli used his body as a shield and let the puck carom off his skate and up the ice. There, Chris Abbott picked it up and flew toward Siverthorn with teammate Mike Iggulden trailing and only one defender back. "Mike was all alone," Abbott said. Iggulden tipped Abbott's perfect pass over Silverthorn's outstretched stick, and Cornell suddenly had its seventh consecutive victory in the bag.


2) The lede, however, shows that when you work for a medium-size paper, you've got to give everything a local angle. (Lampoon headline in spoof paper: ~"Two local men among dead as earthquake kills 10 million in China.")
>>> By Dave Rahme
Staff writer
Nothing could coax much offense out of the Colgate and Cornell hockey teams Friday night. Not a sellout crowd of 2,246 crammed inside Starr Rink to witness the in-state rivals square off for the 123rd time in a rivalry that commenced when World War I was still fresh in the minds of Central New Yorkers. Not the exhortations from each team's pep band, which held a back-and-forth duel of their own from start to finish. Not even the referee's whistle, which gave each team three extra-man advantages.


Greg Berge

That's a gem.  Reminds me of the local angles played in the local fishwrap vis-a-vis the war.  "Local man once bought gas from stepfather of marine..."

Greg Berge

On the Cornell archive audio the timeout is at 2:53:54.
The faceoff is at 2:55:12.
Jason's call is excellent.

jtwcornell91

[Q]atb9 Wrote:

 Harvard moves into second place (23 points/16 games) with the late win at Dartmouth and our (25 points/15 games) late win at Colgate (22 points/15 games).[/q]

Meh.  They've played one more game than Colgate, and tied it.  Colgate is still in second by percentage.

atb9

[Q]jtwcornell91 Wrote:

 [Q2]atb9 Wrote:

 Harvard moves into second place (23 points/16 games) with the late win at Dartmouth and our (25 points/15 games) late win at Colgate (22 points/15 games).[/Q]
Meh.  They've played one more game than Colgate, and tied it.  Colgate is still in second by percentage.[/q]

Little faith in Cornell?  Not me!  B-]
24 is the devil

atb9

[Q]Greg Berge Wrote:

 On the Cornell archive audio the timeout is at 2:53:54.
The faceoff is at 2:55:12.
Jason's call is excellent.[/q]

If you're a little slow like me and you're having trouble finding the archived games, here's the link

http://cornellbigred.collegesports.com/multimedia/corn-multimedia.html

even better link

http://cornellbigred.collegesports.com/sports/m-hockey/sched/corn-m-hockey-sched.html

thanks for the heads up, Greg!
24 is the devil

andyw2100

[Q]Jim Hyla Wrote:
Did anyone else think that Gate scored a goal about midway through the third period? A few of us thought a puck went in hard, hit the bottom back bar and came right out. The goal judge made no motion, the ref was in good position, and Gate didn't complain, even later after the play stopped. So maybe we saw an optical illusion. I doubt it'll be visible on the TV replay, so I don't think I'll ever know.[/q]

I was sitting pretty much right behind the net, near the top of that section. My immediate thought was that the puck was in and out too. When I saw that the goal judge had not turned on the red light, I immediately looked at the ref, fearing that he'd be signalling a goal. I was obviously pleased when I saw he was letting the play continue.

I TiVo'd the game, and watched that play a couple of times when I got home. The TV announcers thought it might have hit a pipe. But there was definitely no sound of that. The replay itself does not show where the puck hit, though it does show the puck coming off at a pretty strange angle.

If I had to take my best guess, I think the puck hit the inside, bottom padded portion of the goal cage and popped right out. That's what it looked like as I watched it live, from about 30 feet away, and nothing I saw on the replays makes me think otherwise. Although I am certainly not sure, I think we caught a break.
                           Andy W.


calgARI '07

I really thought that play was in.  The officials didn't even see it hit the post as they didn't wave anything off.  The way it ricocheted off whatever it hit, it sure seemed like a goal.

Larry72

I asked the goal judge about that play after the game.  He said it did happen fast and that he was sure it did NOT go in.  When it happened he also looked over at the ref for confirmation.  
Larry Baum '72
Ithaca, NY

DeltaOne81

So I'm getting the distinct feeling that the difference between the first few months (games like Mich St x2, @Vermont, and the Everblades (even though we won one) - @Dartmouth not included though) and the last couple months (Union, Clarkson (really only one goal let up, that 2nd goal Paul-Kariya-baseballed shot was ridiculous), Colgate, etc) was that McKee has turned from a good enough goalie to a very good goalie. Reading the summary of saves on that article and witnessing his performance under pressure and saves last weekend, I think he's turned the corner.

Its kind of a shame that our offense can't be potent enough (and I just mean regularly being able to put home 3, even against good teams) that we don't require seriously impressive goaltending to be a national threat, but I'll take it either way :-D :-D