Cornell-Union Postgame Thread

Started by jtwcornell91, January 14, 2005, 09:42:34 PM

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jtwcornell91

Ari, you may be missing DuPree tomorrow night.  The ref at RPI Friday was Dan Murphy.  ::help::

calgARI '07

Brought this over from the game thread.  
Just got back from the game. Unbelievable win. Union is an extremely hard working team and they outworked Cornell for the first two periods. Cornell played the third period and overtime like it was the playoffs, battling extremely hard and matching Union's work ethic. Other than work ethic, Union has very little skill and no size whatsoever. Mayotte played unbelievable to the point where it was gonna take a perfect shot to beat him, and Cornell had two perfect shots tonight. Great win. Cornell superior to Union in almost every way, but they worked soooo hard. Best game of the season for Krantz. Sawada was unbelievable but Dupree thought he was reffing a women's game so he called every clean check. Unbelievable. Officiating is a joke. It was very much a playoff-like game tonight and Cornell battled harder as the game progressed. Great signs in this win.
The only negative is Byron Bitz who was just brutal. Schafer finally took him off the powerplay in the second period after countless mistakes and the powerplay responded right away with their goal. He needs to be moved to the wing on a checking line. He is getting knocked down way too much for a player his size and struggling mightily with the puck.

My 3 Stars: 1. Iggulden  2. Sawada  3.  Krantz
Cook, Gleed, O'Byrne, Pegoraro all had awesome games as well.

jtwcornell91

[Q]It may be less than 63:08 because we had a delayed powerplay for a while in the second period and McKee may have been out for a few seconds.[/Q]

I think McKee still gets credit for that time, since if we accidentally dunk into the empty net, it counts against him.

billhoward

Gametracker had the stars as Iggulden, McKee, and (Union gets credit too) Mayotte in goal.

billhoward

I think point was that if Mckee plays ~63 minutes, that makes up for the games when he's pulled at 59:05 and we lose 2-1, which is really a bit worse than 1.0000 for the game.

I'm unsure how it counts with the goalie pulled in the middle. At the end of the game, I believe an empty net goal counts as a Team Against goal, and I thought if the goalie is pulled in the middle of the game, once he's off the ice (never clear on when the stopwatch clicks), he's not credited for say 20 seconds of 6-5.

But this is all real minor. We';re just arguing because we're online, instead of in Union as we should be and shivering outside the rink right now as we try to decide what bar to head to.

 

atb9

Just got back from the game...Ari is right, Bitz was brutal and looked out of shape.  I haven't looked at the game thread yet but I'm guessing Ari was complaining about Dupree.  The elbowing call on Sawada was piss poor and Dupree blew the whistle twice by my count too quickly on McKee.  The too many men on the ice call was good, both times, IMO, but I can't think of many other calls I agreed with.  Not only was Dupree horrible but the linesman, Sylvester, was calling a lot tonight.  Dude, stop trying to gain attention.  He was kicking guys out of the faceoff for no reason and he called the penalty on the break away, which I thought was questionable, because the call came after the Union player released the puck.  The guy wasn't even pulled down and Dupree never moved his arm.

We should have lost the game with a few minutes left in the game when Union tried to roof the puck on a wide open net but completely missed the cage.  We should have lost or tied the game after the power play in OT, but we fought hard and Iggy completely embarrassed Mayotte.

Union worked hard and their passing was crisp, overall.  I was impressed.  They are much better than last year.  The fans on the other hand still suck (read: good and loud when called upon but annoying...which is good).  I was in the middle of the Union section of the west side bleechers.  Those cow bells are killer...this one guy that looked like he was in a coma just kept shaking the damn thing.  You shouldn't be allowed to cheer like that...maybe if he was mute...

Time to celebrate!
24 is the devil

billhoward

Cornell game story on bigred.com [ http://cornellbigred.collegesports.com/sports/m-hockey/recaps/011405aaa.html ] says Cornell's first goal snapped a scoreless streak of 123:35. I forgot the scoring against Brown was done early.

Ouch!

atb9

It also snapped a huge Mayotte shutout streak...something like 160 minutes
24 is the devil

Avash

(Very) Random facts:

Moulson's power play goal in the second period was the first Cornell goal since Pegoraro's PPG at Brown, a span of 123 minutes and 35 seconds.

The last time Cornell won an ECAC regular season game in overtime was Feb 2 2001, a 2-1 win at Brown. Since that date, Cornell had played 14 ECAC regular season OT games without a win until tonight.

The game-winner was only Iggulden's second career goal in ECAC play.

Cornell, with 2 goals allowed in the last two games combined, still came close to winning neither. The last time the Red allowed one goal in each of two consecutive games but did not win either game was 2/10/01 (1-0 loss @ Yale) and 2/16/01 (1-1 tie vs. Dartmouth).

Cornell has allowed the first goal of the game in 3 straight games.

The last time Cornell trailed after one period away from Lynah Rink and ended up winning the game was at the Everblades last year, on 12/28/03. Ohio State led 1-0 after the 1st period, but (ironically) Mike Iggulden led the comeback for a 4-3 win (in overtime). The last time it happened in an ECAC road game was 1/18/03, as Cornell turned a 0-1 deficit at the first intermission into a 3-2 win at Rensselaer.


billhoward

If we say the referees were terrible and we cite mostly calls that went against Cornell, a neutral observer might say the thing was off wasn't the officiating but the perspective of the person making the comment.

But I wasn't there. It is possible the officials sucked in one direction more than the other.

The 29-0 team wasn't dominant every game. They had their share of lucky breaks, including OT wins.

billhoward

And for one more random fact: When was Cornell's last SHG to win an OT game? Was it in Lynah or maybe on Beebe Lake?

Greg Berge

Not saying it hasn't happened over the period, but I do not recall us winning on an o.t. shorty in the entire time I have followed them (1981-82).

atb9

Couldn't find it anywhere but Pegoraro almost cost us a goal at the beginning of the game.  He was coming back on the back check on a three on three and went after the guy with the puck instead of covering the slot.  The puck was dropped to a wide open slot and McKee came up with a huge save to keep it 0-0.

Along with the Beal give away at the end, the two too many men on the ice calls, and Bitz looking lost, these were the biggest mental errors I saw tonight.

Another Sylvester error I remember was a no offsides call on a cross ice pass by Union in the first period on a three on two.  The guy was a good foot inside the zone when the puck crossed the line and he received the puck about a foot and a half inside of the zone and it created a quality scoring chance.  Pucks generally travel faster than a player.

The Union fans were upset with the officiating as well but I generally thought Union was cheating much more than us.  I can't blame them though with our size advantage.

I think Ari is being tough with no size, no skill.  Union does look small, but they have looked even smaller in the past and they actually have some speed this year.  In addition, Union made a lot of nice, two-line passes and cross ice passes that opened the game up.

I hope it doesn't get dirty tomorrow.
24 is the devil

RichH

Ken Schott has a great description of Iggy's goal in his game write-up on USCHO.  Also some great quotes.

[Q] "The guy's eight feet tall," said Mayotte..."A guy with normal-length reach, I pretty much have. I was sliding over, and I didn't get enough time to fully extend. He had a long enough reach to tuck it in on me." [/Q]
http://www.uscho.com/recaps/20042005/m/01/14/cor-uc.php

calgARI '07

A ton of almost goals for Union tonight.  Officiating was brutal both ways, with Cornell getting the shorter end on both Sawada calls (both were clean checks).  The too many men calls were both legit.