2005-06 Schedule

[KeithK]

[q] NYU and Penn are the only ones I think.[/q]While it doesn't precisely fit the State-U rule, USC is a private school that could easily be mistaken due to it's name.

There are plenty of City-U private schools (we've mentioned a few.  You could even count  NYU as one of them.

[Scersk '97]

[Q]ursaminor Wrote:

 NYU and Penn are the only ones I think.[/q]

I always thought of NYU as a "city-state" school, i.e., that the NY refers to the New York City.  While Columbia, as one of the "colonial colleges" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial_colleges, more closely mimics Penn's situation, NYU was originally the "University of the City of New York" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_University .

[ursusminor]

[Q]Scersk '97 Wrote:

 [Q2]ursaminor Wrote:

 NYU and Penn are the only ones I think.[/Q]
I always thought of NYU as a "city-state" school, i.e., that the NY refers to the New York City.  While Columbia, as one of the "colonial colleges" , more closely mimics Penn's situation, NYU was originally the "University of the City of New York"  .
[/q] I never knew that NYU used to have "city" in its name despite the fact that I am from New York and was admitted to NYU.

Is Rutgers the only primary state university to have a name which makes it appear to be private? (I know that it is now called "Rugers, the State University of New Jersey".)

[Al DeFlorio]

The University of San Francisco (think Bill Russell and K.C. Jones), like BC, is Jesuit.  The University of Chicago is private.  Also the University of Miami.  And probably many other schools with city names.  The University of Phoenix is not only private, but for-profit.

Temple is another state--make that commonwealth--school with a private-sounding name.

[Trotsky]

[Q]ursaminor Wrote:
I always thought of NYU as a "city-state" school, i.e., that the NY refers to the New York City.  While Columbia, as one of the "colonial colleges" , more closely mimics Penn's situation, NYU was originally the "University of the City of New York"  .
[/Q]
Is that different from "CUNY."

[Al DeFlorio]

[Q]Trotsky Wrote:

 [Q2]ursaminor Wrote:
I always thought of NYU as a "city-state" school, i.e., that the NY refers to the New York City.  While Columbia, as one of the "colonial colleges" , more closely mimics Penn's situation, NYU was originally the "University of the City of New York"  .
[/Q]
Is that different from "CUNY."[/q]
CUNY is very different from NYU.  

The City University of New York is made up of a bunch of public colleges, community colleges, and the CUNY Graduate Center, which draws top faculty from all of the CUNY campuses and awards PhD degrees.  Among the CUNY colleges are City College (the old CCNY, of Colin Powell fame), Queens College, Brooklyn College, Hunter College, John Jay (criminal justice, fire science), Baruch College (business), and the College of Staten Island.  Despite its name, most of the public funding for CUNY comes from the state, not the city.  The campuses named above give undergraduate and masters level degrees.

[ithacat]

[Q]Al DeFlorio Wrote:

 The University of San Francisco (think Bill Russell and K.C. Jones), like BC, is Jesuit.  The University of Chicago is private.  Also the University of Miami.  And probably many other schools with city names.  The University of Phoenix is not only private, but for-profit.[/q]

Add the University of Rochester, and for much of it's history the University of Buffalo was private (I believe).

[Al DeFlorio]

[Q]ithacat Wrote:

 [Q2]Al DeFlorio Wrote:

 The University of San Francisco (think Bill Russell and K.C. Jones), like BC, is Jesuit.  The University of Chicago is private.  Also the University of Miami.  And probably many other schools with city names.  The University of Phoenix is not only private, but for-profit.[/Q]
Add the University of Rochester, and for much of it's history the University of Buffalo was private (I believe).
[/q]
Even closer to "home"--Syracuse.

[ninian '72]

Also, the College of William & Mary in Virginia, which received some public support when it was founded in the 17th century and for awhile thereafter, then was governed privately, and finally affiliated with the state/commonwealth in 1906.  Although I haven't looked this carefully, I would guess that a number of other "colonial colleges" had a variety of public and private sources of support during their early years.

[Al DeFlorio]

[Q]ninian '72 Wrote:

 Also, the College of William & Mary in Virginia, which received some public support when it was founded in the 17th century and for awhile thereafter, then was governed privately, and finally affiliated with the state/commonwealth in 1906.  Although I haven't looked this carefully, I would guess that a number of other "colonial colleges" had a variety of public and private sources of support during their early years.[/q]
Harvard, certainly.  A very early "promotional pamphlet" lists John Harvard's contributions (half his estate, or about 1700 pounds) and goes on to say "and the public hand of the State added the rest."

[KeithK]

The Wilkpedia entry on colonial colleges posted earlier makes it seem like all of these early schools were public/private hybrids in their early years.  Not surprising given the times.

[billhoward]

There must be other public schools which appear private. SUNY-Binghmanton sometimes is called Harpur College (the arts school). Cal Berkeley often is called Berkeley.

[Hillel Hoffmann]

Sigh. Of all the people in this world, I wouldn't expect Cornell folks to make assumptions about schools based on their (ever-changing) names. There are loads of public institutions with names that "sound" private. In fact, this has become a bit of a trend, as many universities are trying to manipulate you by changing their names to give themselves l'essence du private. Examples: Memphis University (formerly Memphis State), Towson (formerly Towson State) and the University at Buffalo (gag ... formerly SUNY-Buffalo). This kills me -- it's almost as if they're ashamed of their home states.

It's even crazier with "______ Insitute of Technology" -- some are private, some are state.

Don't ever judge by the name. Look it up.

Here are just a few examples of "public yet private sounding."

Auburn
Bowling Green
The Citadel
Clemson
George Mason
James Madison
Kean
Marshall
Old Dominion
Radford
Rowan
Slippery Rock
Temple
William & Mary
William Paterson

[CU at Stanford]

Rutgers...sounds better than the state university of New Jersey
Kent...formerly, Kent State (which does not conjure the best image, if you know what I mean)

[CU at Stanford]

[q]Cal Berkeley often is called Berkeley[/q]

Yeah, but that is just shorthand.  It does not change the fact that the official name is "University of California, Berkeley."

Like Stanford, its official name reads "Leland Stanford Junior University."  No, we are not a junior college.  Just named after the junior (who died at age 15).