Hobey Hat Trick

Started by DisplacedCornellian, March 31, 2004, 03:19:10 PM

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DisplacedCornellian

Junior Lessard, UMD
Zach Parise, UND
Yann Danis, Brown

Not sure who I'd like to see win out of that bunch....

Guess it doesn't matter as long as it isn't D-anus.  

ugarte

That is vomit-inducing.  Danis wasn't even the best goalie in the country - and probably not in the conference - this year.  That must have been one great web site.

Chris 02

I gotta think that Danis has no chance.  For the above-mentioned reasons of his stats aren't the best is number 1.  

Lessard is leading the nation in points and has managed to get his team to the Frozen Four.

Parise also had great stats, but his team isn't playing and he's only a sophomore whereas the other two are seniors.  Still, he was MVP of World Juniors.  

French Rage

what
a
fucking
joke

He couldnt even win a playoff game this year.  And they lost 6 of their last 7.  Bah.  ::yark::
03/23/02: Maine 4, Harvard 3
03/28/03: BU 6, Harvard 4
03/26/04: Maine 5, Harvard 4
03/26/05: UNH 3, Harvard 2
03/25/06: Maine 6, Harvard 1

Tub(a)

This probably means we will see more and more of those websites  ::yark::
Tito Short!

Josh '99

[Q]ugarte Wrote:
 That is vomit-inducing.  Danis wasn't even the best goalie in the country - and probably not in the conference - this year.  [/Q]I don't know if I'd go THAT far.  I think it's pretty safe to say Danis was the best goalie in the ECAC.  Also, much of the voting (and hyping too) took place *before* Danis's collapse down the stretch and Howard's strong finish.

Something a little disappointing to think about (that I think Rich may have alluded to in the last thread):
02-03 Hobey Hat Trick:
Sejna, 36-46-82, 1.95 ppg
Kunitz, 35-44-79, 1.88 ppg
LeNeveu, 1.20, 94.0%

03-04 Hobey Hat Trick:
Lessard, 30-31-61, 1.39 ppg
Parise, 23-32-55, 1.49 ppg
Danis, 1.81, 94.2%

01-02 also saw forwards put up 79 and 75 points.  Too bad Lenny couldn't have been up for the award in a down year for forwards.
"They do all kind of just blend together into one giant dildo."
-Ben Rocky 04

RedAR

How the f**k does Danis get the nod over someone like Howard, who is, in fact a great goalie?

At first, I had said that Danis wouldn't be one of the 10 finalists, and he was.
Then, I said that there is no way in hell he's gonna be one of the hattricks, and he is.
I currently refuse to believe that he will win the Hobey Baker, which probably means that he will.

If Danis does win, it'll be such an incredible insult to David LeNeveu, who played at a level that Danis couldn't achieve in his wettest dream.

What a f**king load of crock.

[website] swoosh...  Did you see that?  Another great swindle by Yan Danis! [/website]

Pete Godenschwager

[Q]If Danis does win, it'll be such an incredible insult to David LeNeveu, who played at a level that Danis couldn't achieve in his wettest dream.[/Q]

Well, Danis does have a higher save %   His GAA is about 0.6 higher, but as has been debated on another thread, this has a lot to do with team defense.  You can still make the arguement that Lenny is a better goalie if you want, I'd agree with you even, I don't think this is an insult to LeNeveu.  

Avash

Could USCHO be thinking exactly what we are?

From their front page:

Danis, third in the country with a 1.81 goals against average, is the second straight ECAC goalie in the final three, following Cornell's Dave LeNeveu, who had a 1.17 GAA entering the Frozen Four.


Anyone reading that has to think, "Well why should Danis win it then?"


Hm, I wonder if Adam Wodon wrote it :-)

billhoward

Some years the competition is tougher. If winning the Hobey was the No. 1 thing on LeNeveu's mind, he should have stuck around.

Sometimes I think the awards are as much for the fans as anyone. I bet DL is not moping around Springfield tonight wondering about opportunities lost.

ben03

Just so we're all clear ... here are the career stats on both Lenny and d'Anus:

YAN DANIS: 2000-2004
           GP/GS     MIN         GA       GAA        S        SV%      SHo     W-L-T
'03-'04    30/30    1820:52      55       1.81       901     .942        5    15-11-4
Career     100/97   6012:52     220       2.20      2945     .930       13    43-43-12

DAVID LeNEVEU: 2001-2003          
           GP/GS     MIN         GA       GAA        S        SV%      SHo     W-L-T    
'02-'03    32/32    1946:19      39       1.20      607      .940        9     28-3-1
Career     46/46    2748:46      60       1.29      914      .938       11     39-5-2



Say what you will but the numbers don't lie. Make your argument that GAA is more important ... Lenny wins there; make your argument that SV% is a more accurate reflection of a goalie and not the system ... Lenny wins again. I'm sorry ... but all this horsesh*t about him not deserving the accolades he received is making me sick. The fact d'Anus has made to the same "level" as Dave is not just an insult to the numbers that Lenny put up last year but it seriously makes me wonder who the F*UCK is actually voting for the Hobey.
[steps off soap box]

just my $.02:-)
Let's GO Red!!!

Lauren '06

Oh man.  This makes me want to drive to Boston and start a riot if Danis wins it.

calgARI '07

I think Lessard deserves to win.  He has led UMD's offense and taken that team to another level.  

billhoward

In another thread we lament the quality of ECAC hockey and how it gets no respect. It's nice to know the Ivy League portion of the ECAC in the past three years contributed three finalists to the round of 10 (Doug Murray three years ago) and two of them were finalists in the round of 3. Actually, four finalists; Chris Higgins was a finalist two years ago along with LeNeveu.

So we ought to lay off Yann Denis. If the choice for the Hobey is a guy from one of the flyover states and a fellow Ivy Leaguer -- remember, we're the ones who're supposed to get together after graduation and conspire to run the country -- we should rally round our breathren.

Josh '99

Danis is Quebecois, I don't think he's likely to conspire about running the country with us.  :-P
"They do all kind of just blend together into one giant dildo."
-Ben Rocky 04