Non-Students in the Student Section

[CowbellGuy]

Well, I suppose it's a fair enough gripe, but as long as each student can buy more than one ticket, it's a practice that will continue. God knows I'm not the only one. More importantly there's nothing that says those tickets can only be used for students. Tickets don't say it. Nothing during the purchasing procedure says it.

What I do take offense to is the notion that I'm doing this for profit. If I billed my normal rate for the time I spend working on eLynah I could have retired by now. As it stands, even with everyone's very generous donation, I'll probably lose about a grand just on the server costs this year, and likely more next year since I don't expect the same generosity every year, and I'm fine with that. If I want to stick a tiny SalsaShark.net at the bottom of a few pages, I will. If I could get enough paying clients to cover server costs, I'd happily stop taking donations. On top of that, I gave the team 30 copies of the BC DVD, as well as sets to several of the players' parents for free. I've sold 2 prints of my photos, which probably didn't even cover gas for a road trip. (And just to clarify, the last ECAC home or away game I missed was in 1998.)

So if you have a problem with me being in a student section, take it up with athletics and their distribution methods. But don't you dare accuse me of doing this for profit.

[melissa \'01]

Yeah. What Beeeej said. Nicely put!

Am I the only one confused by WITCHYWOMAN being named Bill?

[rhovorka]

[Q]I'm afraid to ask.

Gary Glitter dance...?[/Q]
Yeah.  It started slowly, but now, pretty much all of Section B does this thing with their clapping now.  Between each clap you alternately raise one arm.  Looks like some sort of aerobics exercise.  

 I don't mind it so much sitting in H, since D-F has a tough time staying with the actual beat.  It gives me a visual to see where the real beat of the song is.

[melissa \'01]

Age,

I think most people are arguing the other point of WITCHYWOMAN's post simply because the idea of you making profit off all you do is simply foolish. The rest of us know better than that. Whoever the flamer is ... he/she is obviously bitter and clueless.

[RedAR]

well, WITCHYWOMAN being named Bill gives credance to the theory that Facetimer is a lesbian transexual.:-P

[Will]

How long until DESPERADO shows up? :-P

[TAKE IT EASY]

Listen everyone, don't let the sound of your own wheels drive you crazy.

[jeh25]

WITCHYWOMAN wrote:
  While at first it didn't seem to bother me, in viewing his website I noticed that while he is taking up a student seat, he is doing this only for personal gain and profit.

You will notice a PayPal link on the bottom of the page, where Cowbell Guy seeks donations for this site.  Also, when you click on his images of each game, he writes that pictures are available for purchase and licensing.  Maybe he will argue that he breaks even, if that, for hosting the site, but the fact remains that on all pictures and in links on his website, there are free advertisments for his business SalsaShark.net.  

The day SalsaShark.net turns a profit, I'll eat a sweaty jockstrap of a player of your choice in front of everyone in the Bartells Hall turf room.  

CBG pays over $200 out of pocket *every* month to host eLynah. This doesn't include the countless hours he spends maintaining and upgrading the site or the money spend on the hardware involved in maintaining the site.

Nor does it include the cost of the camera equipment (~$1500 for the camera body alone), nor the time he spends processing each and every image. Just because they are digital images doesn't mean they don't have lengthy post processing involved.  Do you realize each photo takes 5-10 minutes of processing, assuming nothing goes wrong? (http://elynah.com/?page=/pictures/process) Assume 80 pics at 5 minutes each and you're talking about almost 7 hours post production for a single weekend. You ever price out professional photographers by the hour?

Between the direct out pocket costs and the equipment, CBG spends thousands of dollars a year on eLynah before we even get to the opportunity cost of the countless hours he puts in. Thus, your suggestion that CBG is exploiting Cornell Hockey for his own profit is either incredibly naive or disingenuous..  

In the balance, the petty threats of an someone that doesn't even have the courage to sign his full name are childish at best.

Regards.

John

[HOTELCALIFORNIA]

Oh my freakin' God, WITCHYWOMAN, Bill, whatever you name is, bite the freakin' weenie. Who cares about Student Sections and Townie Sections. Get your tickets and sit wherever if your a true fan.. and if you don't get your tickets TRY NEXT YEAR.. I mean who cares that your just another fan who didn't get what he wants, don't bring your crap here. And by the way, Age does so much around here for the fans, not for "personal profit". Do you know how many hockey parents have apprieciated his work? Youre a selfish hockey fan if you'd rather please yourself than many other people. And besides, there are ALWAYS people out there selling their tickets before the games. Buy your tickets there and take your crap somewhere else.

And if you want my REAL opinion, Cornell should decrease the amount reserved for the students. This whole freakin' community supports the students, and there are some "townies" out there who have been going to games waaay before you students were even born. So put that in your blunt and SMOKE IT.

[ugarte]

Among the many flaws in your argument, WW, is that the paypal link is somehow improper.  Did you pay to use the site? To view the photos?  To read the boxscores? I didn't think so.  The button says "donate" not "admission charge."  

Donate if you wish, but don't pretend that eLynah is anything other than free.

[pavlov]

I feel a bit psychic.

I correctly nail FaceSlimer as a transsexual lesbian only to be treated to this dreck by WITCHYWOMAN (who is Bill '04??)  Maybe we will be rid of this gender challenged yoyo at season's end.

Please someone drop the puck.  Drop some mistletoe.  Oh fuck you can drop some acid.  This board is beginning to remind me of a senior seminar that has been infiltrated by a bunch of sophomores.

Dr. Pavlov signing off!

[Dave]

If you want someone to blame for not having a line number, I think you oughta blame the people that cut in line during the line number distribution itself, or Athletics for coming up with such an asinine system in the first place.

[Greg Berge]

17 days down, 4 to go.

[WITCHYWOMAN]

You guys don't get it.::screwy::

If I could chose what alumni I want sitting in the student section Cowbell Guy would be at the top of the list.  But that isn't my point.

It doesn't matter what type of student sits in the student sections, so long as they are students.  The SA allocates funds from the student activities fee to help defray the cost of student season tickets.  This is why tickets only cost $109.00.

I'll be the first to admit that the policy for getting tickets suck, but it doesn't help when several alumni, not just Cowbell Guy, take up what little seats there are in the student section.  I don't care about an alumnus coming up for a game or two and buying seats from a student, I mind alumni that steal from the student activities fee and steal a seat from a potential student who might one day be a valuable contributor to this forum.

I call on Cowbell Guy to surrender his seats because he is robbing a student of the Cornell hockey experience that everyone on this forum holds dear.  Maybe the kid is a facetimer, but I can bet that Cowbell Guy wasn't a hockey fan until he came to Cornell.  So let's give that facetimer a chance to see what all the hype is about.

But then again, as I said before I am talking to a wall.  There are very few students who read this forum and care enough to comment.  The rest of you are Cowbell Guy's friend and feel the need to defend how good of a fan he is.

...And I am not facetimer, but the more you guys respond, the more synical and more sypathetic to facetimer's arguements (when (s)he is not calling everyone a stupid facetimer) I become.

[DeltaOne81]

WITCHYWOMAN wrote:
And I am not facetimer, but the more you guys respond, the more synical and more sypathetic to facetimer's arguements (when (s)he is not calling everyone a stupid facetimer) I become.

It's too late to respond to this in full. My one point that I will say is the the Cowbell cheer is a long standing tradition in Cornell hockey and it wouldn't work if Age was anywhere else. I have a hunch that if someone else was to take over the Cowbell, Age would eventually yield his B tickets. But, even if he didn't, Age should be allowed to sit on the damn bench if he so pleases.

Okay, to respond to the part that I quoted... um, you realize that's the full extent of it's arguments, right? There is nothing else to be sympathetic to.