Cornell 1 vs. Harvard (sucks) 0 FINAL

[Greg Berge]

   Team        (First Place)    Record  Pts   Last Week
 1 North Dakota         (36)     9-2-0  595     1
 2 Boston College        (4)     9-2-3  559     2
 3 Maine                        10-2-1  516     3
 4 Colorado College              8-1-3  466     5
 5 New Hampshire                 9-3-1  443     4
 6 Ohio State                   11-5-0  328     9
 7 St. Cloud State               9-3-2  324     8
 8 Denver                        9-4-1  284    10
 9 Massachusetts                 9-3-2  241     7
10 Michigan                      9-5-0  237     6
11 Wisconsin                     8-3-3  173    NR
12 Brown                         6-1-1  167    15
13 Dartmouth                     4-1-4  121    11
14 Notre Dame                    8-3-2   95    NR
15 Boston University             4-4-4   55    12

Others Receiving Votes: Minnesota-Duluth 50, 
Harvard 48, Cornell 46, Rensselaer 29, 
Minnesota 17, Mercyhurst 2, Providence 2, 
Clarkson 1, Quinnipiac 1

Brown: tied and lost.
Dartmouth: idle.
Notre Dame: lost and lost.
BU: lost and playing Sunday.
UMD: lost and won.
Harvard: won and lost.
Cornell: tied and won.
RPI: lost and won.
Minnesota: won and trailing 2-1 at UAA tonight.



Post Edited (12-07-03 00:09)

[ugarte]

One of the guys who got revenge on Volonnino wrote:

- I say keep starting the Hornby-Abbott-Abbott line, they keep the pressure on well.

In light of the inspiration of starting that line, we should start calling it the AHA line.  Always good to have an acronym line.

[Janos]

what was up with the sign i saw in section A, which said something along the lines of "Hey Harvard, remember McRae?"   ::twitch:: ::rolleyes::

i don't get it...  perhaps a Paolini sign may have been more appropriate.   ::screwy::

[DeltaOne81]

McRae scored the GTG in Albany, which was at least as big, if not bigger, than the Paolini goal. The Paolini goal was prettier, the McRae goal was incredibly clutch.

[Section A]

....and on the back of the "Remember McRae?" sign, it said, "Remember Sammy?"

[Janos]

ah.  good point.  that seemed to have slipped my mind (as well as those of the couple people i had traveled with throughout the postseason).

for some reason, we assumed it was in reference to mcrae's absolutely ridiculous shot in D-OT vs. BC (hence we couldn't figure out the parallel to harvard)...   i suppose a goal as amazing as that tends to overshadow the novelty/importance of the GTG in albany...

i guess i have had a tendency to get offensive (defensive?  uppity?  i dunno what the word is)...  now that my beloved old-B-sectioners are gone and we have a new breed, where not only does no one understand anything about our history or opponents (apparently the "stickless" chant was more exciting/meaningful that the "sieve-hyphen-sieve"), but 1/2 the people don't even know the rules of the game ("why did the ref blow his whistle?"  "for the same reason he did the last 35 times there's been an offsides")...

in any case, i stand corrected  :-P



Post Edited (12-07-03 03:11)

[Al DeFlorio]

In case anyone didn't see this in Friday's Crimson:

http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=356641

[ugarte]

Al DeFlorio wrote:

In case anyone didn't see this in Friday's Crimson:

http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=356641

Great find, Al. The best line of the article:
[Q]Let's face it: Bright Hockey Center should be renamed Bright Reading Center. It's as quiet as a library on Friday and Saturday nights.[/Q]
I also thought it was strange that the author made a big deal about the fact that neither team was in first, but didn't mention that Cornell is both undefeated in ECAC play and has games in hand on the leaders.



Post Edited (12-07-03 10:38)

[Greg Berge]

Thar was actually an extremely good article.  I guess Shane Hynes is "Son of Sam." :-)

[Robb \'94]

Exactly - as far as I'm concerned, this game did put us back in first.  You have to account for half-games or winning percentage or however you want to do it.  Just counting points is stupid.  If you must count, you should at least count down from 44 - every loss counts -2 and a tie is -1.  Counting down assumes that the teams will win all their games in hand, using half games assumes that the teams will go .500 during their games-in-hand, while counting points assumes the teams will go .000.  None of those are particularly interesting - it should just be straight win percentage and be done with it!

[Al DeFlorio]

Greg Berge '85 wrote:

Thar was actually an extremely good article.  I guess Shane Hynes is "Son of Sam." :-)

I think Morosi's quite good.  Knows what he's writing about and is not a "homer."  What's he doing at Harvard? ::nut::

For comparison, there's this paragraph of misinformation in today's Boston Globe (page down a bit):

http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/womens_hockey/articles/2003/12/07/saints_upset_no_5_unh/



Post Edited (12-07-03 11:51)

[dss28]

Saw it immediately.  McLee, eh?

[Keith K \'93]

Fact is nothing gives a perfect sense of the standings when there discrepencies.  Using Win% assumes that teams will win exactly the same percentage of games the rest of the way, which is often impossible (we're .833 and can't win 13.33 games the rest of the way).  Just take the standings with a grain of salt and don't worry too much about first place labels in December.

[Al DeFlorio]

dss28 wrote:

Saw it immediately.  McLee, eh?

First shutout?

[Robb \'94]

good point, kk.  I think that's really what's at the bottom of my beef - writers always talk about what place people are in by counting points, and that bugs me.  But when I think about it, I guess my real issue is that they're talking about places at all!