Opponents and other news and results 2026-2027

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Trotsky

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Actively prohibiting you from drinking water in AZ might be a crime.

QuoteIf a person or business places someone in a specific dangerous or hazardous situation that they directly caused, a legal duty to render aid may apply.

I know every restaurant here always provides free water to any person (non-customers especially) who asks.  It is not a statute, but to not do so would be commercial suicide. 

Water is life.

And can we finally stop with the paramilitary fondling in sports and society in general by The Usual Suspects?  That derp has its time and place, I suppose in exceptional situations, but the rest is goosestep cosplay.

Dafatone

Like I said, somebody should go to prison.


chimpfood

This is stupid. He collapsed during a workout that is very commonly done. Yes, everyone should learn and always give kids water and enough rest during workouts, but nobody needs to be arrested or executed.

stereax

Quote from: chimpfood on September 08, 2026, 12:42:28 AMThis is stupid. He collapsed during a workout that is very commonly done. Yes, everyone should learn and always give kids water and enough rest during workouts, but nobody needs to be arrested or executed.
If you live in a state where you need to have heatstroke protocols, and you're doing strenuous workouts in heat, and you logically know some of your kids aren't adjusted to it...

Especially if the allegations of denying kids water are true, that's strongly pushing this into criminal negligence/neglect territory.
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Old Red

Quote from: chimpfood on September 08, 2026, 12:42:28 AMThis is stupid. He collapsed during a workout that is very commonly done. Yes, everyone should learn and always give kids water and enough rest during workouts, but nobody needs to be arrested or executed.

Gemini has a different take on this...

Criminal negligence in sports heatstroke situations occurs when a coach, athletic trainer, or school official fails to perceive a substantial and unjustifiable risk of severe heat illness, and their gross deviation from the standard of care results in the injury or death of an athlete.
While most sports injuries are handled in civil court, cases involving heatstroke can cross into criminal prosecution—such as involuntary manslaughter or reckless endangerment—if the supervisor's actions or omissions are deemed shockingly reckless.

Key Factors That Elevate Heatstroke to Criminal Negligence Prosecutors look for a "gross deviation" from how a reasonable, qualified professional would act. In sports heatstroke cases, this typically involves:
Denying Basic Needs: Withholding water or breaks as a form of punishment or "toughness" training.Ignoring Obvious Medical Distress: Forcing an athlete to continue practicing after they show clear signs of heat illness (e.g., vomiting, confusion, staggering, or collapse).
Disregarding Extreme Weather Warnings: Mandating high-intensity, full-gear practices during extreme heat index alerts without modifying the schedule or intensity.
Lack of Required Emergency Preparation: Failing to have mandatory cooling equipment on-site (like cold-water immersion tubs) or delaying calling 911 when an athlete collapses.

Standard of Care: What "Reasonable" Coaches Must DoTo avoid negligence, sports programs must follow established safety protocols, such as those published by the National Athletic Trainers' Association (NATA) or state athletic associations:
WBGT Monitoring: Using a Wet Bulb Globe Temperature (WBGT) device to measure environmental heat stress and altering practice duration or gear accordingly.
Acclimatization Periods: Gradually introducing intensity and heavy protective gear over the first 7 to 14 days of a season.
"Cool First, Transport Second": Having a cold-water immersion tub on the sidelines. Because heatstroke damage depends on how long the core body temperature stays above 104°F, immediate immersion is the gold standard for survival.


The Rancor

Quote from: stereax on September 08, 2026, 01:22:54 AM
Quote from: chimpfood on September 08, 2026, 12:42:28 AMThis is stupid. He collapsed during a workout that is very commonly done. Yes, everyone should learn and always give kids water and enough rest during workouts, but nobody needs to be arrested or executed.
If you live in a state where you need to have heatstroke protocols, and you're doing strenuous workouts in heat, and you logically know some of your kids aren't adjusted to it...


How will he learn if he can't be forgiven for killing a few kids? /s

Dafatone

Quote from: chimpfood on September 08, 2026, 12:42:28 AMThis is stupid. He collapsed during a workout that is very commonly done. Yes, everyone should learn and always give kids water and enough rest during workouts, but nobody needs to be arrested or executed.

When you should give water and enough rest to people during workouts in a hot, dry, environment, but you don't give water and enough rests instead, you're screwing up.

When you also leave someone passed out due to heat and dehydration for several minutes instead of immediately getting them into a cooling protocol, you've passed "screwing up" and moved into prison territory.


adamw

Quote from: chimpfood on September 08, 2026, 12:42:28 AMThis is stupid. He collapsed during a workout that is very commonly done. Yes, everyone should learn and always give kids water and enough rest during workouts, but nobody needs to be arrested or executed.

do you know details about what the workout was and what is commonly done that I don't?
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ugarte

Quote from: adamw on September 08, 2026, 07:33:56 PM
Quote from: chimpfood on September 08, 2026, 12:42:28 AMThis is stupid. He collapsed during a workout that is very commonly done. Yes, everyone should learn and always give kids water and enough rest during workouts, but nobody needs to be arrested or executed.

do you know details about what the workout was and what is commonly done that I don't?
curious what the guidelines are for when it's well over 100°