Opponents and other news and results 2026-2027

[Trotsky]

Actively prohibiting you from drinking water in AZ might be a crime.

If a person or business places someone in a specific dangerous or hazardous situation that they directly caused, a legal duty to render aid may apply.

I know every restaurant here always provides free water to any person (non-customers especially) who asks.  It is not a statute, but to not do so would be commercial suicide. 

Water is life.

And can we finally stop with the paramilitary fondling in sports and society in general by The Usual Suspects?  That derp has its time and place, I suppose in exceptional situations, but the rest is goosestep cosplay.

[Dafatone]

Like I said, somebody should go to prison.

[chimpfood]

This is stupid. He collapsed during a workout that is very commonly done. Yes, everyone should learn and always give kids water and enough rest during workouts, but nobody needs to be arrested or executed.

[stereax]

This is stupid. He collapsed during a workout that is very commonly done. Yes, everyone should learn and always give kids water and enough rest during workouts, but nobody needs to be arrested or executed.

If you live in a state where you need to have heatstroke protocols, and you're doing strenuous workouts in heat, and you logically know some of your kids aren't adjusted to it...

Especially if the allegations of denying kids water are true, that's strongly pushing this into criminal negligence/neglect territory.

[Old Red]

This is stupid. He collapsed during a workout that is very commonly done. Yes, everyone should learn and always give kids water and enough rest during workouts, but nobody needs to be arrested or executed.

Gemini has a different take on this...

Criminal negligence in sports heatstroke situations occurs when a coach, athletic trainer, or school official fails to perceive a substantial and unjustifiable risk of severe heat illness, and their gross deviation from the standard of care results in the injury or death of an athlete.
While most sports injuries are handled in civil court, cases involving heatstroke can cross into criminal prosecution—such as involuntary manslaughter or reckless endangerment—if the supervisor's actions or omissions are deemed shockingly reckless.

Key Factors That Elevate Heatstroke to Criminal Negligence Prosecutors look for a "gross deviation" from how a reasonable, qualified professional would act. In sports heatstroke cases, this typically involves:
Denying Basic Needs: Withholding water or breaks as a form of punishment or "toughness" training.Ignoring Obvious Medical Distress: Forcing an athlete to continue practicing after they show clear signs of heat illness (e.g., vomiting, confusion, staggering, or collapse).
Disregarding Extreme Weather Warnings: Mandating high-intensity, full-gear practices during extreme heat index alerts without modifying the schedule or intensity.
Lack of Required Emergency Preparation: Failing to have mandatory cooling equipment on-site (like cold-water immersion tubs) or delaying calling 911 when an athlete collapses.

Standard of Care: What "Reasonable" Coaches Must DoTo avoid negligence, sports programs must follow established safety protocols, such as those published by the National Athletic Trainers' Association (NATA) or state athletic associations:
WBGT Monitoring: Using a Wet Bulb Globe Temperature (WBGT) device to measure environmental heat stress and altering practice duration or gear accordingly.
Acclimatization Periods: Gradually introducing intensity and heavy protective gear over the first 7 to 14 days of a season.
"Cool First, Transport Second": Having a cold-water immersion tub on the sidelines. Because heatstroke damage depends on how long the core body temperature stays above 104°F, immediate immersion is the gold standard for survival.

[The Rancor]

This is stupid. He collapsed during a workout that is very commonly done. Yes, everyone should learn and always give kids water and enough rest during workouts, but nobody needs to be arrested or executed.

If you live in a state where you need to have heatstroke protocols, and you're doing strenuous workouts in heat, and you logically know some of your kids aren't adjusted to it...

How will he learn if he can't be forgiven for killing a few kids? /s

[Dafatone]

This is stupid. He collapsed during a workout that is very commonly done. Yes, everyone should learn and always give kids water and enough rest during workouts, but nobody needs to be arrested or executed.

When you should give water and enough rest to people during workouts in a hot, dry, environment, but you don't give water and enough rests instead, you're screwing up.

When you also leave someone passed out due to heat and dehydration for several minutes instead of immediately getting them into a cooling protocol, you've passed "screwing up" and moved into prison territory.

[ugarte]

Everything is gender.

[adamw]

This is stupid. He collapsed during a workout that is very commonly done. Yes, everyone should learn and always give kids water and enough rest during workouts, but nobody needs to be arrested or executed.

do you know details about what the workout was and what is commonly done that I don't?

[ugarte]

This is stupid. He collapsed during a workout that is very commonly done. Yes, everyone should learn and always give kids water and enough rest during workouts, but nobody needs to be arrested or executed.

do you know details about what the workout was and what is commonly done that I don't?

curious what the guidelines are for when it's well over 100°

[abmarks]

Now a marching band member dies from the heat.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/49870190/iowa-band-member-taken-life-support-collapsing-game

[Jim Hyla]

Now a marching band member dies from the heat.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/49870190/iowa-band-member-taken-life-support-collapsing-game

How do we know that he died from the heat? Nothing in the article proves that. It even says that he died before they were to perform and that he had cardiac arrest. Maybe he had unknown cardiac problems. Certainly students have been found to have previously unknown problems.

They say he collapsed in the heat. Well duh, it was hot, he couldn't have collapsed in the cold.

It was bad reporting to even say that he collapsed in the heat, because it seems to imply that it was due to  the heat, even though it doesn't have any proof of that. A more reasonable statement, until more is known, would be to just say that he died after collapsing due to "sudden cardiac arrest."

The author made it worse when it went on to discuss the temperature and what the school did and didn't do with game times. Better reporting would have been to first acknowledge that we don't know how much, if any, the heat was a factor.

The way words are used matters and we all need to be careful how we say or write things.

This is not to say that heat wasn't a factor. It may well have been. But until we know the facts, we should be careful.

[The Rancor]

I'd wager that a band kid would have more probability of an undiagnosed health condition than a D1 Athlete, especially an NHL Draft pick. It's still tragic, for the family and friends.

For Mayich, it's also tragic, no matter what the cause or person to blame.

And for a kid, and he is a kid, who moved from Ontario, or Clarkson, to Arizona- and there are heat protocols that, according to reports weren't followed. He's not acclimated. And, as a kid, and a hockey player, in his first week at one of the biggest party schools in the country, he could have been dehydrated to a point where things took a turn. I'm not blaming him, in fact it is even more incumbent on the adults and professionals to be looking out for him and his teammates. The pressure of competition is real, and as a transfer portal recruit, I bet it was massive. It's all so sad, and unfortunately, likely avoidable.

*all just speculation. He could have been a teetotaler for all I know. But, I also remember guys drinking scope and cologne in Jrs.

[stereax]

I think Hyla is being sarcastic 😅

[sah67]

Changed the link to a non-paywall version:

16 former members of the UMich men's team from 1984-2001 filed a lawsuit today against the university and its board for "sexualized torture" they claim they endured at the hands of older players.

Red Berenson and Mel Pearson are not named as defendants but are described in the suit as having condoned and encouraged the abuse: https://www.mlive.com/wolverines/2026/09/sexual-hazing-accusations-leveled-at-michigan-hockey-in-lawsuit.html

Sexualized abuse akin to "torture" became the norm in ritualistic hazing among members of the University of Michigan's men's hockey team from 1984 to 2001, according to a new federal lawsuit filed by 16 former team members.

The allegations are graphic and shocking: Many allege they were stripped naked and forcibly had their genitals shaved. Others say during this process, the handles of razors were forcibly inserted into their anuses. Multiple people said they had pubic hair singed by a blowtorch. Others said older players tied a hockey helmet to the genitalia of younger players and filled the helmet with pucks.

"Coaching staff concealed the nature of the abuse and misled the players by chiding the few players who complained to 'be a Michigan man;' that they were not being 'good teammates;' and even penalizing players with reduced ice time," the lawsuit states.