Opponents and other news and results 2026-2027

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BearLover

#105
The Ivies had a good season in 2025-26 and I expect them to improve further in the next few years. They're one of the few subsets of schools that isn't in total disarray in the new college hockey environment.

The Ivies are recruiting well, they have young new coaches, and their schools aren't on the verge of going bankrupt like most of the schools playing D1 hockey. Maybe most importantly, almost no one transfers out thanks to the value of the degree.

Whether the other Ivies improving is good for Cornell specifically is hard to say. If Cornell is after the same pool of recruits, then it's probably bad for us.


Trotsky

The Venn diagrams are different enough that we are not all fighting over the same snotty little cunt at Shattuck St. Marys or Northwood.

arugula

Quote from: BearLover on August 14, 2026, 12:30:55 AMThe Ivies had a good season in 2025-26 and I expect them to improve further in the next few years. They're one of the few subsets of schools that isn't in total disarray in the new college hockey environment.

The Ivies are recruiting well, they have young new coaches, and their schools aren't on the verge of going bankrupt like most of the schools playing D1 hockey. Maybe most importantly, almost no one transfers out thanks to the value of the degree.

Whether the other Ivies improving is good for Cornell specifically is hard to say. If Cornell is after the same pool of recruits, then it's probably bad for us.



Sure helps the sos if Brown and Yale get a dead cat bounce out of the cellar.  It's really only those two who have been consistently bad recently, and obviously Yale is historically generally pretty to very good.  Plus the pizza.

scoop85

Quote from: arugula on August 14, 2026, 11:55:49 AM
Quote from: BearLover on August 14, 2026, 12:30:55 AMThe Ivies had a good season in 2025-26 and I expect them to improve further in the next few years. They're one of the few subsets of schools that isn't in total disarray in the new college hockey environment.

The Ivies are recruiting well, they have young new coaches, and their schools aren't on the verge of going bankrupt like most of the schools playing D1 hockey. Maybe most importantly, almost no one transfers out thanks to the value of the degree.

Whether the other Ivies improving is good for Cornell specifically is hard to say. If Cornell is after the same pool of recruits, then it's probably bad for us.



Sure helps the sos if Brown and Yale get a dead cat bounce out of the cellar.  It's really only those two who have been consistently bad recently, and obviously Yale is historically generally pretty to very good.  Plus the pizza.

While both teams have new coaches, I'd expect Yale to ramp up quicker than Brown based on a better recent history.

stereax

According to some idiots' voting, Cornell would have 3 of 12 all-USA freshmen (in two teams), more than any other ECAC school:
Arend 1st team, Tuminaro 1st team, Wehmann 2nd team.

This means nothing, really, except that we seem to be recruiting okay.
Law '27, Section C denizen, liveblogging from Lynah!

Trotsky

These appear to be new idiots.  That's... good?  I guess?

ursusminor

Quote from: marty on August 13, 2026, 05:41:25 PMToday 8/13/2026 at Houston Field House



Please excuse the portrait view - this is through a door on the east side of Houston - area of the old stage.  I will try to get closer next time.


Part 3 from RPI Men's Hockey Instagram.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DcJwo2qPfX1/

ursusminor

#112
RPI has lost incoming forward Josh Evaschesen who decided to stay in the WHL for his overage season after he was traded to his hometown team Medicine Hat. https://cfjctoday.com/2026/08/19/blazers-trade-departing-forward-evaschesen-to-hometown-tigers-for-trio-of-draft-picks/  >:(

https://x.com/JonKeenNLSports/status/2090141068427952362?s=20
Spoke to Josh Evaschesen this AM... he was set to jump on a flight to RPI today before the trade.
"It's been a pretty stressful 24 hours here but ultimately I felt I couldn't pass up the opportunity to play in my hometown for my last year of junior."

There are two more posts from the same source below it and several official posts.

The Rancor

#113
Bummer for RPI.
But, this illustrates that many of these CHL guys aren't interested in college. If there's a fat bag for them or for whatever reason their 'advisors' tell them to go here, go there, but we are going to see a lot of de-commits as money gets funneled back north to Major Junior.
Factors like being able to pay his home town squad are hard to beat too, with their 7,000 seat arena and state of the art (and bigger) locker rooms etc. (edit RPI does offer athletic scholarships - I was thinking Union my bad, Ursus)

marty

Quote from: The Rancor on August 20, 2026, 09:05:15 AMBummer for RPI.
But, this illustrates that many of these CHL guys aren't interested in college. If there's a fat bag for them or for whatever reason their 'advisors' tell them to go here, go there, but we are going to see a lot of de-commits as money gets funneled back north to Major Junior.
Factors like being able to pay his home town squad are hard to beat too, with their 7,000 seat arena and state of the art (and bigger) locker rooms etc. (edit RPI does offer athletic scholarships - I was thinking Union my bad, Ursus)

How the hell could anyone consider RPI if they are not interested in college (or Institute)? They were known for giving D's and F's last i read.

Are the days of "Tute, love it or leave it." just a memory?
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

BearLover

Most players, especially those in the CHL, don't care about school. They care about playing pro hockey. Every school, including RPI, markets itself to recruits as an important developmental step towards pro hockey. Even within the Ivies most hockey players aren't serious students.

In this kid's case, I bet when RPI recruited him, they were his best developmental option. But then he blew up and suddenly a lot of teams wanted him. (He seems to have just started blowing up at the time he committed to RPI.) It was likely never about school. I mean, the fact he'd have to go to class might have contributed to him decommitting, but I doubt he cared about school in the first place.

Not too different from Cournoyer.

The Rancor

Quote from: marty on August 20, 2026, 12:14:47 PM
Quote from: The Rancor on August 20, 2026, 09:05:15 AMBummer for RPI.
But, this illustrates that many of these CHL guys aren't interested in college. If there's a fat bag for them or for whatever reason their 'advisors' tell them to go here, go there, but we are going to see a lot of de-commits as money gets funneled back north to Major Junior.
Factors like being able to pay his home town squad are hard to beat too, with their 7,000 seat arena and state of the art (and bigger) locker rooms etc. (edit RPI does offer athletic scholarships - I was thinking Union my bad, Ursus)

How the hell could anyone consider RPI if they are not interested in college (or Institute)? They were known for giving D's and F's last i read.

Are the days of "Tute, love it or leave it." just a memory?


I don't think they are considering the fact that studying and grades are important there. The agents, or players, want to go to college because it's now the next step to the NHL. A school like RPI needs recruits, but, perhaps they didn't fully grasp what the true expectations were. There's a sign on the locker room wall at RPI that clearly states their team and individual goals and responsibilities- 3.2 GPA is one of them, and I'm sure they mean it.

stereax

Quote from: BearLover on August 20, 2026, 01:16:28 PMEven within the Ivies most hockey players aren't serious students.
I think it depends on the Ivy - like, most of our guys end up with 3.0+ GPA. I think Marty brought up that Dartmouth players also are very invested in academics - though historically Dartmouth has also been a terrible hockey school. You usually need to be at least somewhat academically inclined to succeed at an Ivy.

On the other hand, if you listen to the blue chip prospects at BC/BU/PSU who are taking theater design (Leonard/Smith/Perreault line), ceramics (Hagens), fly fishing (McKenna), or classes where you're apparently simulating preschool math education with peers your age (Cole Hutson brought this one up on a podcast recently, that they were basically "playing blocks"), it's different. Blue chip prospects see it as a step in their NHL dreams, not as much a degree. (Though I think Hutson also mentioned doing summer classes to be able to finish his degree, so, you go Glen Coco.)

CHL guys - especially those that came up in the CHL before the transfer stuff opened, ESPECIALLY the better players - are often going to think of college ONLY as a step in furthering their hockey careers. USHL guys - especially those that aren't star players, especially those going to schools like the Ivies that have good reputation scholastically - may very well consider the hockey as more a way to get a scholarship than a true future career path.

Cournoyer was a bit of an outlier in terms of the kinds of guys we usually get - very late commit and one that very specifically filled a dire need on the roster (starting goalie). I suspect Casey and company will learn a valuable lesson with that one. (And I hope Rousseau kicks ass.)
Law '27, Section C denizen, liveblogging from Lynah!

BearLover

It's not hard to end up with a 3.0 GPA if you take mostly classes where the average grade is an A or A-.

The Rancor

Quote from: stereax on August 20, 2026, 01:56:47 PM
Quote from: BearLover on August 20, 2026, 01:16:28 PMEven within the Ivies most hockey players aren't serious students.
I think it depends on the Ivy - like, most of our guys end up with 3.0+ GPA. I think Marty brought up that Dartmouth players also are very invested in academics - though historically Dartmouth has also been a terrible hockey school. You usually need to be at least somewhat academically inclined to succeed at an Ivy.

On the other hand, if you listen to the blue chip prospects at BC/BU/PSU who are taking theater design (Leonard/Smith/Perreault line), ceramics (Hagens), fly fishing (McKenna), or classes where you're apparently simulating preschool math education with peers your age (Cole Hutson brought this one up on a podcast recently, that they were basically "playing blocks"), it's different. Blue chip prospects see it as a step in their NHL dreams, not as much a degree. (Though I think Hutson also mentioned doing summer classes to be able to finish his degree, so, you go Glen Coco.)

CHL guys - especially those that came up in the CHL before the transfer stuff opened, ESPECIALLY the better players - are often going to think of college ONLY as a step in furthering their hockey careers. USHL guys - especially those that aren't star players, especially those going to schools like the Ivies that have good reputation scholastically - may very well consider the hockey as more a way to get a scholarship than a true future career path.

Cournoyer was a bit of an outlier in terms of the kinds of guys we usually get - very late commit and one that very specifically filled a dire need on the roster (starting goalie). I suspect Casey and company will learn a valuable lesson with that one. (And I hope Rousseau kicks ass.)


Re: USHL players- yeah until very recently they have all had to keep themselves academically eligible, or at least take academics seriously to the point of being accepted, whereas CHL players grades didn't matter at all (at least for a US college, no idea what Canadian standards are) now that has flipped a little, and some USHL or BCHL players can freely join their CHL draft teams (see the USNDP) ad then go to school, if motivated to do so.