Opponents and other news and results 2026-2027

[BearLover]

Money has ruined college football and basketball. It remains to be seen whether hockey follows. Not to rehash old arguments, but adamw is jumping the gun by saying money is the most important thing. College hockey programs cannot support themselves. Unlike football and basketball, there are no lucrative TV contracts or ticket sales. Instead, programs are reliant on donors. It is true programs can pay players now, but the pot of money they have to spend hasn't magically increased. Where before it was split amongst recruiting, travel, facilities, and coaching, the same pot of money is now squeezed even further to the extent it is shared with players. Clarkson and RPI are struggling financially, but that's been the case for awhile. In any case, they should be concerned with competing within the ECAC rather than nationally. Within the ECAC, money isn't really a thing.

I said No. 1 thing if you want to compete nationally. Which is what the poster was talking about. And not that it's the most important thing, per se - but that it's the baseline, and without it, you're going nowhere (nationally). It's the first thing. So at least respond accurately.

Next - it's not necessarily the same pot - since everyone is getting creative with the donations to figure out how to get more money.

But - even if it was the same pot - that's irrelevant - since if, as you say, more is going to players and less is going elsewhere .... well, money going to players is what's affecting the ability to be competitive.

Once again -- since I don't know why this is even in question -- if the money weren't a big deal, why is EVERY school putting together a pot of between $100k and $1 million to pay college hockey players?  And freaking out trying to do so?

1. Citation needed that every school is doing this. St. Lawrence, Colgate, Alaska?
2. Citation needed that every school is freaking out about it.
3. Already been discussed here but David Carle mentioned on a podcast recently that Alston money + cost of attendance is factored into what we consider revenue sharing/NIL. At Denver that amounts to 10K per player, so a roster of 26 is getting paid 260K total even without any additional rev share/NIL. Alston money/COA is relatively new but predates NIL and revenue sharing. I don't know if a school like RPI/Clarson/StL/Colgate/Alaska was paying Alston money/COA, but even just doing that would get them to 260K. I mention this because nobody really cared about Alston money/COA before, but now the notion that teams have a 260K budget for paying its players is supposedly a big deal. To be clear: teams were already paying these amounts, before the House settlement/advent of NIL. It has now simply been repositioned as part of the rev share/NIL bucket. But the amount being paid to players hasn't necessarily increased.
4. I mention that RPI/Clarkson should care more about winning in-conference not in response to what you said (I wasn't even responding to your post) but because it's a more realistic aspirational goal that would still be considered a success.

you're hopeless

lol if you think Denver's 2 first-rounders are making 10k

I never said they're making 10k and I find it interesting you didn't engage with anything I actually wrote

You find it interesting because you are a stubborn child, and so it's useless. I've told it all to you many times before, yet you still insist on things that aren't true.  So - what more do you want.  If you want engagement, read my old replies.

OK--just repeating what David Carle said on a podcast. If you think he's a liar, you should be clear that's your stance. The fact Denver got some blue chip recruits is not itself evidence that they're paying them a bunch of money. Obviously, a kid who's bound to make millions in the NHL could have plenty of reasons besides 50 grand to choose the most successful program in the country. Also, these blue-chippers getting some money is not at odds with what Carle said, which was about last year's team, not next year's team. Anyway, back to the original point: if the 260K worth of Alston money + COA that was already being paid prior to the House settlement is now instead characterized as revenue sharing, that doesn't change anything in practice. If I'm an RPI fan, I wouldn't worry too much about it, honestly.

[dbilmes]

Harvard gets lots of positive press in this article in The Athletic.
My favorite part of it, though, was this reader comment:
"On May 7, longtime Crimson coach Ted Donato announced that he would step away at the conclusion of the academic calendar, leaving behind a winning NCAA legacy and a wide NHL footprint."
What does this mean — leaving behind a wide NHL footprint?
By the way, coach has won 53 percent of his games and no NCAA titles. Is "legendary" the word we want in the headline? Or is that just default now for sportswriters? Whatever for clicks?

[Trotsky]

The inspired write poetry.

The diligent write novels.

The lazy write screenplays.

The bottomfeeders write political or sports pieces.

The reward structure is inverse to the amount of talent.

cf. acting

[stereax]

Harvard gets lots of positive press in this article in The Athletic.
My favorite part of it, though, was this reader comment:
"On May 7, longtime Crimson coach Ted Donato announced that he would step away at the conclusion of the academic calendar, leaving behind a winning NCAA legacy and a wide NHL footprint."
What does this mean — leaving behind a wide NHL footprint?
By the way, coach has won 53 percent of his games and no NCAA titles. Is "legendary" the word we want in the headline? Or is that just default now for sportswriters? Whatever for clicks?

I think "wide NHL footprint" refers to the Harvard players who've had successful NHL careers, who Donato did have a hand in developing.

And, uh... how many NCAA titles does Schafer have? I don't think anyone can meaningfully argue he isn't a legendary NCAA coach, though. Part of it is a .633 win percentage (part of that being half the ECAC is really bad), but part of it is sheer longevity and style of play.

[Trotsky]

IINM over Schafer's tenure Cornell had more NC$$ bids and won more NC$$ tourny games than all but 4 or 5 other schools.

For a thirty year chunk, that is impressive.

[BearLover]

Schafer was clearly a much better coach than Donato.

[stereax]

Mark Divver:

Providence College freshman goalie Ben Hrebik, who played for OHL Barrie the last two years, recently became academically ineligible because he failed a class

Friars looking to add a goalie before start of season and already have a few targets

Hrebik had been on campus at PC for month of July going to summer school

[RichH]

In the last 50 years, the two coaches who did the most for Cornell hockey morale were Mike Schafer and Ted Donato.

[The Rancor]

Mark Divver:

Providence College freshman goalie Ben Hrebik, who played for OHL Barrie the last two years, recently became academically ineligible because he failed a class

Friars looking to add a goalie before start of season and already have a few targets

Hrebik had been on campus at PC for month of July going to summer school

As I've said before, there are a lot of CHL kids that just aren't college kids. It's totally ok. That's why the balance of NCAA and CHL has worked for so long- and I understand some kids have to major in fly fishing, but I think in time there will be many more academically ineligible or incapable hockey players.

[Trotsky]

Mark Divver:

Providence College freshman goalie Ben Hrebik, who played for OHL Barrie the last two years, recently became academically ineligible because he failed a class

Friars looking to add a goalie before start of season and already have a few targets

Hrebik had been on campus at PC for month of July going to summer school

My wife was going to fail Joey Harrington when he was taking her class at UOregon.  That's when she got a visit.  Her doctoral candidacy was mentioned.

He got a D.

Kudos to PC.  There may not be another school in all D-1 that would do that.

[Beeeej]

Mark Divver:

Providence College freshman goalie Ben Hrebik, who played for OHL Barrie the last two years, recently became academically ineligible because he failed a class

Friars looking to add a goalie before start of season and already have a few targets

Hrebik had been on campus at PC for month of July going to summer school

My wife was going to fail Joey Harrington when he was taking her class at UOregon.  That's when she got a visit.  Her doctoral candidacy was mentioned.

He got a D.

Kudos to PC.  There may not be another school in all D-1 that would do that.

The question for me is whether PC would've done the same thing prior to the existence of the transfer portal.

I have no philosophical objection to a student-athlete getting a disproportionate amount of tutoring or other help in order to be able to pass a class they otherwise might not, and I think that's where Cornell's stance lies as well, but it sure does help that they try not to admit kids who aren't capable of the work in the first place.

[Dafatone]

Mark Divver:

Providence College freshman goalie Ben Hrebik, who played for OHL Barrie the last two years, recently became academically ineligible because he failed a class

Friars looking to add a goalie before start of season and already have a few targets

Hrebik had been on campus at PC for month of July going to summer school

My wife was going to fail Joey Harrington when he was taking her class at UOregon.  That's when she got a visit.  Her doctoral candidacy was mentioned.

He got a D.

Kudos to PC.  There may not be another school in all D-1 that would do that.

The partner of a friend who played junior hockey (the partner not the friend) claimed that he was recruited by Harvard but couldn't clear the academics bar.

The funny thing is that he and I would get into political arguments, but "shut up you couldn't play at Harvard for academic reasons" would seem mean-spirited even if he probably wouldn't understand the insult anyway.

Oddly, despite that, I don't think he was lying about his hockey cred. He did know a handful of ECAC guys.

[arugula]

Have a friend who is on faculty at Dartmouth.  Won't share what they teach because that would give it away.  Suffice to say it's not an area with which you would associate jocks.  Said pleasantly surprised by how engaged the hockey players in the class were.  Also said they were very nice /respectful.  At which point, I said I don't want to hear anymore, as I want to dislike them

[stereax]

Have a friend who is on faculty at Dartmouth.  Won't share what they teach because that would give it away.  Suffice to say it's not an area with which you would associate jocks.  Said pleasantly surprised by how engaged the hockey players in the class were.  Also said they were very nice /respectful.  At which point, I said I don't want to hear anymore, as I want to dislike them

I think there's also a bit of difference between the kind of hockey player that gets recruited to an Ivy and one that fails out of Providence summer school... haha.

I mean, have y'all seen the Dean Letourneau one?

[stereax]

Mark Divver:

Providence College freshman goalie Ben Hrebik, who played for OHL Barrie the last two years, recently became academically ineligible because he failed a class

Friars looking to add a goalie before start of season and already have a few targets

Hrebik had been on campus at PC for month of July going to summer school

My wife was going to fail Joey Harrington when he was taking her class at UOregon.  That's when she got a visit.  Her doctoral candidacy was mentioned.

He got a D.

Kudos to PC.  There may not be another school in all D-1 that would do that.

The question for me is whether PC would've done the same thing prior to the existence of the transfer portal.

I have no philosophical objection to a student-athlete getting a disproportionate amount of tutoring or other help in order to be able to pass a class they otherwise might not, and I think that's where Cornell's stance lies as well, but it sure does help that they try not to admit kids who aren't capable of the work in the first place.

I mean, if the student-athlete is putting in effort, I think that's important. If they're not doing classwork, shirking exams, and the like, that's one thing. If the student is genuinely trying but it's just a difficult class for them, I don't mind giving them extra resources.