Castagna and Walsh - The Worry Zone

[The Rancor]

Couns is 6'4 and already was a QMJHL goalie... Seems Michigan State needs a goalie? I'm just teasing, of course, but it is a real possibility. And as others stated, yes, NCAA does develop goaltending. Ours just don't always work out, because of, ahem, The System.
Scrivens had a pretty good NHL career, I'd say. And, FWIW, he's the Team Manager for Denver. Think on that. (if true)

Mich State is getting Ravensbergen I think

I meant that he could go to another school, not specifically Mich State- or pro.

[stereax]

Tom Fitzgerald (thanks for catching that BL) goes "BIG good" and he's a (worthless) GM.

Absolutely fucking worthless. We could've had fucking Buium or Dickenson but noooo Silayev big.

Fml. I need to stop letting the Devils ruin my life.

SO GUESS WHAT JUST HAPPENED

[BearLover]

Tom Fitzgerald (thanks for catching that BL) goes "BIG good" and he's a (worthless) GM.

Absolutely fucking worthless. We could've had fucking Buium or Dickenson but noooo Silayev big.

Fml. I need to stop letting the Devils ruin my life.

SO GUESS WHAT JUST HAPPENED

I was worried the devils had signed caton ryan

[stereax]

Tom Fitzgerald (thanks for catching that BL) goes "BIG good" and he's a (worthless) GM.

Absolutely fucking worthless. We could've had fucking Buium or Dickenson but noooo Silayev big.

Fml. I need to stop letting the Devils ruin my life.

SO GUESS WHAT JUST HAPPENED

I was worried the devils had signed caton ryan

lmfao no he's still draft eligible this year (and if he goes to a team i hate i will be Depressed about it, kempf on the rags was bad enough)

woooooooooooooooop fitz is OUT

[tretiak]

Tom Fitzgerald (thanks for catching that BL) goes "BIG good" and he's a (worthless) GM.

Absolutely fucking worthless. We could've had fucking Buium or Dickenson but noooo Silayev big.

Fml. I need to stop letting the Devils ruin my life.

SO GUESS WHAT JUST HAPPENED

I was worried the devils had signed caton ryan

lmfao no he's still draft eligible this year (and if he goes to a team i hate i will be Depressed about it, kempf on the rags was bad enough)

woooooooooooooooop fitz is OUT

I found out via text: The hockey terrorist is gone.

[stereax]

Tom Fitzgerald (thanks for catching that BL) goes "BIG good" and he's a (worthless) GM.

Absolutely fucking worthless. We could've had fucking Buium or Dickenson but noooo Silayev big.

Fml. I need to stop letting the Devils ruin my life.

SO GUESS WHAT JUST HAPPENED

I was worried the devils had signed caton ryan

lmfao no he's still draft eligible this year (and if he goes to a team i hate i will be Depressed about it, kempf on the rags was bad enough)

woooooooooooooooop fitz is OUT

I found out via text: The hockey terrorist is gone.

I'm terrified and if they promote Chuck Fletcher I'm just gonna be a (Vegas) Knights fan full time but for now WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP

[stereax]

TIL Casty was a theater kid. (Prospect pipelines, Calgary. Jon is #10 on the list.)

I wish I could say I was surprised.

[Give My Regards]

TIL Casty was a theater kid. (Prospect pipelines, Calgary. Jon is #10 on the list.)

I wish I could say I was surprised.

Embellishment!

[stereax]

TIL Casty was a theater kid. (Prospect pipelines, Calgary. Jon is #10 on the list.)

I wish I could say I was surprised.

Embellishment!

Starring role much?

[Will]

TIL Casty was a theater kid. (Prospect pipelines, Calgary. Jon is #10 on the list.)

I wish I could say I was surprised.

Embellishment!

Starring role much?

Always hogging the limelight, that guy. (Would've been nice to have him hog the limelight for one more season, alas.)

[stereax]

TIL Casty was a theater kid. (Prospect pipelines, Calgary. Jon is #10 on the list.)

I wish I could say I was surprised.

Embellishment!

Starring role much?

Always hogging the limelight, that guy. (Would've been nice to have him hog the limelight for one more season, alas.)

Hey, if he hogs the spotlight in the NHL, that's fine by me

[ER]

Yes, we are certainly in agreement that Castagna leaving, on the one hand, and Bancroft/Stanley leaving, on the other hand, are two very different things. If just Castagna signs, we aren't having this discussion. It's the Stanley departure that's truly surprising and causing me to look back and reflect on the fact that this type of departure is mostly unprecedented in Cornell history.

In what way, shape or form is that "unprecedented"? In this thread alone, numerous examples have been pointed out of similar Cornell players leaving after their junior year.

I'd argue it's "mostly unprecedented" in the sense that he is only the third Cornell player drafted in the fourth round or higher to leave early in the last 30+ years, and because he does not project as an NHL player. He's the lowest drafted early departure among defensemen in the last 30+ years as well (and probably much longer, but I didn't look back that far).  It's been extremely rare for us to not retain this type of player.

depends who is doing the projecting! you keep substituting your judgment for the people involved. ottawa was interested enough to buy him out of his senior year with $500K+ over the next three years (between bonuses and minor league salary) regardless of whether he ever makes the NHL. He's only 21 and regarded as a solid defensive defenseman who is likely to grow into his frame. He doesn't project as an NHL star but I think they see him as someone who will get to skate on the good ice.

Not only do I think that it is unlikely that Stanley would turn down that offer, I further assume that Jones-the-mentor (as opposed to Jones-the-guy-who-wants-to-win) would advise him to take it.

Yeah - Castagna got over $1 million a year for 3 years so chances are Calgary has him slotted into a middle 6 position at worst.  500k over 3 years is nice cheddar too and he can easily go back and finish his degree with $ in the bank.  So yeah he is just getting paid to walk away from a fourth year of Cornell hockey.

Damn? 1 million a year? I went into the wrong profession

[BearLover]

Yes, we are certainly in agreement that Castagna leaving, on the one hand, and Bancroft/Stanley leaving, on the other hand, are two very different things. If just Castagna signs, we aren't having this discussion. It's the Stanley departure that's truly surprising and causing me to look back and reflect on the fact that this type of departure is mostly unprecedented in Cornell history.

In what way, shape or form is that "unprecedented"? In this thread alone, numerous examples have been pointed out of similar Cornell players leaving after their junior year.

I'd argue it's "mostly unprecedented" in the sense that he is only the third Cornell player drafted in the fourth round or higher to leave early in the last 30+ years, and because he does not project as an NHL player. He's the lowest drafted early departure among defensemen in the last 30+ years as well (and probably much longer, but I didn't look back that far).  It's been extremely rare for us to not retain this type of player.

depends who is doing the projecting! you keep substituting your judgment for the people involved. ottawa was interested enough to buy him out of his senior year with $500K+ over the next three years (between bonuses and minor league salary) regardless of whether he ever makes the NHL. He's only 21 and regarded as a solid defensive defenseman who is likely to grow into his frame. He doesn't project as an NHL star but I think they see him as someone who will get to skate on the good ice.

Not only do I think that it is unlikely that Stanley would turn down that offer, I further assume that Jones-the-mentor (as opposed to Jones-the-guy-who-wants-to-win) would advise him to take it.

Yeah - Castagna got over $1 million a year for 3 years so chances are Calgary has him slotted into a middle 6 position at worst.  500k over 3 years is nice cheddar too and he can easily go back and finish his degree with $ in the bank.  So yeah he is just getting paid to walk away from a fourth year of Cornell hockey.

Damn? 1 million a year? I went into the wrong profession

Still needs to actually make the NHL. Otherwise he's making less than the average Cornell graduate.

[ER]

Yes, we are certainly in agreement that Castagna leaving, on the one hand, and Bancroft/Stanley leaving, on the other hand, are two very different things. If just Castagna signs, we aren't having this discussion. It's the Stanley departure that's truly surprising and causing me to look back and reflect on the fact that this type of departure is mostly unprecedented in Cornell history.

In what way, shape or form is that "unprecedented"? In this thread alone, numerous examples have been pointed out of similar Cornell players leaving after their junior year.

I'd argue it's "mostly unprecedented" in the sense that he is only the third Cornell player drafted in the fourth round or higher to leave early in the last 30+ years, and because he does not project as an NHL player. He's the lowest drafted early departure among defensemen in the last 30+ years as well (and probably much longer, but I didn't look back that far).  It's been extremely rare for us to not retain this type of player.

depends who is doing the projecting! you keep substituting your judgment for the people involved. ottawa was interested enough to buy him out of his senior year with $500K+ over the next three years (between bonuses and minor league salary) regardless of whether he ever makes the NHL. He's only 21 and regarded as a solid defensive defenseman who is likely to grow into his frame. He doesn't project as an NHL star but I think they see him as someone who will get to skate on the good ice.

Not only do I think that it is unlikely that Stanley would turn down that offer, I further assume that Jones-the-mentor (as opposed to Jones-the-guy-who-wants-to-win) would advise him to take it.

Yeah - Castagna got over $1 million a year for 3 years so chances are Calgary has him slotted into a middle 6 position at worst.  500k over 3 years is nice cheddar too and he can easily go back and finish his degree with $ in the bank.  So yeah he is just getting paid to walk away from a fourth year of Cornell hockey.

Damn? 1 million a year? I went into the wrong profession

Still needs to actually make the NHL. Otherwise he's making less than the average Cornell graduate.

Pretty good incentive, one would think. Plus, he's a college dropout