Cornell 2 Princeton 1, 1/16/26

Started by Trotsky, January 13, 2026, 01:19:48 AM

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chimpfood

That Stanley goal was disgusting. Main thing is that we just need to be quicker to move the puck out of our D zone but that's a great win overall. Quinnipiac tomorrow should be a fantastic game, they are a legit national championship contender in my eyes, and it seems like there's a real hate between the two teams.

Trotsky

Schafer and Pecknold worked together at skills camps and respected each other, so that helped tamp it down.  That's gone now.  It may become more ahem spirited.

Trotsky

Quote from: ACM on January 16, 2026, 10:51:37 PM
Quote from: sah67 on January 16, 2026, 09:53:29 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on January 16, 2026, 09:48:02 PMSo the call that gave us the man advantage for 9 seconds late in the third was interesting.  Ezman, their goal scorer BTW, was whistled for roughing along with Ryan and then given 2 extra for "Persisting in Misconduct."  That's a new one for me.
I'd love to know the difference between that and unsportsmanlike conduct.
This is more Greg's fantasy than anything else. The actual call is attached.

I read it verbatim off this which has since been changed.

Fantasy?  Okay.

Mine?  No.

I'm sorry I didn't get a screenshot, JFC.

BearLover

Pretty horrid attendance again tonight...not just the student sections (which were over half empty), but also E/F/G/H/I/J/K have been half empty all year...need to do something about this. 9-0 at Lynah and nobody there to see it...

chimpfood

Thought I saw Jack Malone at the game today, he plays for the Utica comets so maybe it was him

The Rancor

Quote from: JasonN95 on January 16, 2026, 05:09:57 PMI'm class of '95, so the last four years of Brian McC before Schafer came in. For my whole time the prime students sections were A and B with Cornell attacking the open end of the horseshoe twice. Schafer did not change that.

 We sat in H and I can confirm this to be the case.

adamw

Quote from: BearLover on January 16, 2026, 10:30:02 PMOn the Princeton goal, seemed like a bad rebound for Cournoyer to give up (the point shot didn't seem particularly hard) but Fegaras also seemed to lose and/or was lackadaisical defending his man, the ultimate goal scorer.

Glad Casey read my posts about putting Pirtle in.

People forget Stanley put up good offensive numbers in the BCHL. Glad the fourth line was on the ice to get rewarded with some pluses.

Cournoyer looked good in the parts of the game I was able to watch. Princeton missed some point blank opportunities in the final minutes though.

The missed trip on DeSantis about 25 seconds before the go-ahead goal was absurd. Then the double penalty call on Princeton with under three minutes to go was perhaps more absurd. Walsh's tripping penalty on the PP was a horrible mistake, but the right call.

I am skeptical of this Cornell team, and I suspect our metrics are quite a bit worse than those of Quinnipiac, who seems like the best team in the league by a good amount, but we'll see how tomorrow goes. Very happy with where we sit but we're in many close games against not amazing opposition and things have been breaking our way.

Cornell shot edge per game ... 5.4
Quinnipiac ... 12.6

Cornell's number is very good. I don't think there's a need to be skeptical. You're right, however, that Quinnipiac's number is better. 12.6 is an ungodly difference, really. So compared to QU, Cornell's looks way off. But that's because of QU, not because of Cornell.

Going further, Quinnipiac is No. 1 in the country in Corsi For% (shot attempts / (shot attempts / shots allowed)) at 59.5% ... Cornell is 13th at 54.4% (Union is 2nd by the way and Dartmouth is 12 -- and all of this should probably be adjusted for SOS - but 3,4,5 is Michigan State, Western Michigan and Wisconsin)

That number in "Close" games is better for Cornell, as it jumps to 8th, while QU remains No. 1.

When you go to actual goals for/against - Cornell is 4th nationally in that ratio, and QU is 6th.

This makes sense when you look at things like xGA+ - where Cornell's goalies have significantly out-performed Quinnipiac's.

That's all I got.
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BearLover

Quote from: adamw on January 17, 2026, 10:09:11 AM
Quote from: BearLover on January 16, 2026, 10:30:02 PMOn the Princeton goal, seemed like a bad rebound for Cournoyer to give up (the point shot didn't seem particularly hard) but Fegaras also seemed to lose and/or was lackadaisical defending his man, the ultimate goal scorer.

Glad Casey read my posts about putting Pirtle in.

People forget Stanley put up good offensive numbers in the BCHL. Glad the fourth line was on the ice to get rewarded with some pluses.

Cournoyer looked good in the parts of the game I was able to watch. Princeton missed some point blank opportunities in the final minutes though.

The missed trip on DeSantis about 25 seconds before the go-ahead goal was absurd. Then the double penalty call on Princeton with under three minutes to go was perhaps more absurd. Walsh's tripping penalty on the PP was a horrible mistake, but the right call.

I am skeptical of this Cornell team, and I suspect our metrics are quite a bit worse than those of Quinnipiac, who seems like the best team in the league by a good amount, but we'll see how tomorrow goes. Very happy with where we sit but we're in many close games against not amazing opposition and things have been breaking our way.

Cornell shot edge per game ... 5.4
Quinnipiac ... 12.6

Cornell's number is very good. I don't think there's a need to be skeptical. You're right, however, that Quinnipiac's number is better. 12.6 is an ungodly difference, really. So compared to QU, Cornell's looks way off. But that's because of QU, not because of Cornell.

Going further, Quinnipiac is No. 1 in the country in Corsi For% (shot attempts / (shot attempts / shots allowed)) at 59.5% ... Cornell is 13th at 54.4% (Union is 2nd by the way and Dartmouth is 12 -- and all of this should probably be adjusted for SOS - but 3,4,5 is Michigan State, Western Michigan and Wisconsin)

That number in "Close" games is better for Cornell, as it jumps to 8th, while QU remains No. 1.

When you go to actual goals for/against - Cornell is 4th nationally in that ratio, and QU is 6th.

This makes sense when you look at things like xGA+ - where Cornell's goalies have significantly out-performed Quinnipiac's.

That's all I got.

Thanks for the stats. To be clear, I buy that Cornell is a good team. What I'm skeptical of is them being the 9th best team in the country. (I realize NPI isn't measuring that, but my point is that their ranking is inflated due to having had good luck.)

Notably Cornell has played the 47th hardest schedule in the country. (Quinnipiac has played the 49th hardest.) A 5.4 shot edge per game vs the 47th hardest schedule doesn't sound very impressive.*

As mentioned, I think Q is the best team in the conference by a significant amount, while I think Cornell is second. I've been a seller on Dartmouth and Princeton the whole season and I'm not surprised they've both been regressing. We are probably a bubble team. But if we win today, we'll actually have a good amount of breathing room both in the ECAC and in the NPI. 

Trotsky


adamw

FWIW - I just ran some other super secret numbers - and my rudimentary analysis of those shows some things like ...

Quinnipiac is top 10 in the country in things like "defending opponent controlled entries" and "contested loose puck win %" and "o-zone controlled entries leading to scoring chances"

Cornell is middle of the pack in all three on that.

Make of that what you will.
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VIEWfromK

That was definitely an ECAC game last night.  There was pressure on the puck all night.  Cornell got behind the Princeton defense a couple of times early but couldn't capitalize.  The best chance being Veilleux on the two on one but the puck took its time getting to him and the Princeton goalie had time to get in position to make the save.

Princeton controlled the middle ten minutes of that first period.  I thought Cournoyer was battling the puck the entire first period.  He didn't look very comfortable and struggled to make any clean saves.  He even kicked a rebound right back into the slot and I'm not sure I've seen him do that too much this year.  He did seem to settle down but I also think that Cornell clamped down because there weren't a lot of shots toward Cournoyer the rest of the game. 

Princeton did a nice job blocking shots and forcing bad decisions.  I saw a lot of Cornell passes go into teammates skates or go to the opposition.  Their goalie looked pretty solid.  He made that terrific back door save on Veilleux in the second.  There just weren't second opportunities when pucks got through to him.

That was an amazing goal by Stanley.  The points have really been piling up for him these past two weeks.

They have shown the ability so far to win games late.  Hopefully that serves them well when they get into March.

This is going to be a nice test for them tonight.  I'm excited to see how they rise to the occasion against Quinnipiac

Tom Lento

Quote from: adamw on January 17, 2026, 12:53:48 PMFWIW - I just ran some other super secret numbers - and my rudimentary analysis of those shows some things like ...

Quinnipiac is top 10 in the country in things like "defending opponent controlled entries" and "contested loose puck win %" and "o-zone controlled entries leading to scoring chances"

Cornell is middle of the pack in all three on that.

Make of that what you will.

That lines up with what I saw in tonight's game. Quinnipiac just looked more controlled through the neutral zone and on zone entries than Cornell pretty much throughout.

I thought Cornell was a little better on the forecheck and Quinnipiac was maybe a little sloppier in the defensive zone, but the differences there were not as stark.

stereax

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Give My Regards

Quote from: stereax on January 18, 2026, 06:44:17 PMI just wanna look up my hockey players dude 😭😭😭

I suppose Aiden Long is next...
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stereax

Quote from: Give My Regards on January 19, 2026, 08:37:46 AM
Quote from: stereax on January 18, 2026, 06:44:17 PMI just wanna look up my hockey players dude 😭😭😭

I suppose Aiden Long is next...
No, Longer has a normal enough search result. Our Long, there's a baseball guy with the same name, a few record check things. This is the worst I could find, and that guy has a different last name.

Hiscock, on the other hand, goes straight to porn sites 😭 but once you get past the image results, it's all our guy.

Did y'all know he won a U20 world championship in ball hockey?
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