Cornell 7 St. Lawrence 2, 12/6/25

Started by Trotsky, December 06, 2025, 03:11:12 PM

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ugarte

Quote from: chimpfood on December 06, 2025, 09:45:42 PM
Quote from: arugula on December 06, 2025, 09:40:55 PMLooking at scores, UMass is turning out to not be good. BU too. So much for making a difficult OOC schedule.
Sucks that we start every year with a tough series against a team that is supposed to be really good and they just end up sucking.
would be nice if we at least won those games

I listened to the first and liked going up 2-0. I had to step away and tuned back in just in time to see SLU tie it up and I started cursing and kicking things. The next time I looked it was 6-2 and by the time I got the game on, we had 7. That felt pretty good.

Keopple is good to have as a backup but I think we know where our bread is buttered.

Dafatone

Quote from: stereax on December 06, 2025, 08:21:23 PMSTOP. COMMITTING. CRIMES. YOU. ABSOLUTE. MUPPETS.

Are you planning on going into criminal defense?

Iceberg

Quote from: BearLover on December 06, 2025, 09:54:40 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on December 06, 2025, 09:35:18 PM7, 7, 5, 6 tonight in the ECAC.

Q loses.  Union might be good.
Union is 34 in the NPI.

Dartmouth continues to trounce everyone, not just in score but in SOG. I have a hard time believing they're particularly good but at this point they might be odds-on favorites to make the NCAA tournament for the first time in 43 years. Which would be a shame.

Barring a massive collapse, I think there's a good shot they get in as an at large but there's still a lot of season left. Well coached team with great offensive execution, some rising young players, and a blue line that can create offense. I don't think their goaltending is anything to write home about and I think some of the more skilled teams nationally (e.g. Michigan) would carve their defense apart, but it's nice to have such a high NPI team in the conference

marty

Quote from: chimpfood on December 06, 2025, 09:28:35 PMNow we have a "Wolfenburger"

A face for radio and a voice for closed captioning.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

stereax

Quote from: Dafatone on December 06, 2025, 10:06:27 PM
Quote from: stereax on December 06, 2025, 08:21:23 PMSTOP. COMMITTING. CRIMES. YOU. ABSOLUTE. MUPPETS.

Are you planning on going into criminal defense?
Nope - public international is the goal - but I am sure I can find someone at the law school who is.
Law '27, Section C denizen, liveblogging from Lynah!

BearLover

I don't know anything about goaltending but Keopple just doesn't look steady. So much wasted motion as compared to Cournoyer. Cournoyer has given up a few soft goals but he hasn't been sliding out of position like Keopple is prone to. It could nerves or something, he's not a small goalie but he kind of slides like an Iles or Shane, whereas Cournoyer sits still like a wall. I feel like Keopple has untapped potential but rolling with Cournoyer makes sense going forward.

stereax

Quote from: BearLover on December 06, 2025, 10:41:01 PMI don't know anything about goaltending but Keopple just doesn't look steady. So much wasted motion as compared to Cournoyer. Cournoyer has given up a few soft goals but he hasn't been sliding out of position like Keopple is prone to. It could nerves or something, he's not a small goalie but he kind of slides like an Iles or Shane, whereas Cournoyer sits still like a wall. I feel like Keopple has untapped potential but rolling with Cournoyer makes sense going forward.
Generally, goalies who slide around aren't in the right position and have to compensate with athleticism. The best goalies often do not look like they're the best - because they know where the puck is and they simply are there in time for the shot.
Law '27, Section C denizen, liveblogging from Lynah!

Trotsky

Quote from: BearLover on December 06, 2025, 09:54:40 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on December 06, 2025, 09:35:18 PM7, 7, 5, 6 tonight in the ECAC.

Q loses.  Union might be good.
Union is 34 in the NPI.

Dartmouth continues to trounce everyone, not just in score but in SOG. I have a hard time believing they're particularly good but at this point they might be odds-on favorites to make the NCAA tournament for the first time in 43 years. Which would be a shame.
46 years.

sah67

I'm totally here for the O'Brien-Keopple bromance:

QuoteBut one of the loudest cheers erupting from the Cornell bench on Saturday came when senior defenseman Jack O'Brien blocked a hard St. Lawrence shot on a late third-period penalty kill.

"You get that sense when you see that on the bench," said head coach Casey Jones '90. "It's a big thing for him to do, especially with the score, right? I think that's why it's so meaningful."

The score was handily in Cornell's favor. But that didn't matter.

"I'm fine," O'Brien, sporting a dark bruise on his arm and a wide smile, said. "It's my best friend in net, so I owed him a couple. Felt good."


fastforward

Quote from: sah67 on December 07, 2025, 08:53:49 AMI'm totally here for the O'Brien-Keopple bromance:

QuoteBut one of the loudest cheers erupting from the Cornell bench on Saturday came when senior defenseman Jack O'Brien blocked a hard St. Lawrence shot on a late third-period penalty kill.

"You get that sense when you see that on the bench," said head coach Casey Jones '90. "It's a big thing for him to do, especially with the score, right? I think that's why it's so meaningful."

The score was handily in Cornell's favor. But that didn't matter.

"I'm fine," O'Brien, sporting a dark bruise on his arm and a wide smile, said. "It's my best friend in net, so I owed him a couple. Felt good."


True team player right there!
Additionally, I liked that Casey took advantage of the score to change things up a bit and put some guys in roles they normally don't play in

Snowball

Quote from: sah67 on December 07, 2025, 08:53:49 AMI'm totally here for the O'Brien-Keopple bromance:

QuoteBut one of the loudest cheers erupting from the Cornell bench on Saturday came when senior defenseman Jack O'Brien blocked a hard St. Lawrence shot on a late third-period penalty kill.

"You get that sense when you see that on the bench," said head coach Casey Jones '90. "It's a big thing for him to do, especially with the score, right? I think that's why it's so meaningful."

The score was handily in Cornell's favor. But that didn't matter.

"I'm fine," O'Brien, sporting a dark bruise on his arm and a wide smile, said. "It's my best friend in net, so I owed him a couple. Felt good."


Also nice to see this kind of contribution pointed out.

Snowball

Quote from: stereax on December 06, 2025, 10:52:28 PM
Quote from: BearLover on December 06, 2025, 10:41:01 PMI don't know anything about goaltending but Keopple just doesn't look steady. So much wasted motion as compared to Cournoyer. Cournoyer has given up a few soft goals but he hasn't been sliding out of position like Keopple is prone to. It could nerves or something, he's not a small goalie but he kind of slides like an Iles or Shane, whereas Cournoyer sits still like a wall. I feel like Keopple has untapped potential but rolling with Cournoyer makes sense going forward.
Generally, goalies who slide around aren't in the right position and have to compensate with athleticism. The best goalies often do not look like they're the best - because they know where the puck is and they simply are there in time for the shot.

Appreciate this insight. I'd been trying to figure how Cournoyer has been so successful.

Snowball

Quote from: Iceberg on December 06, 2025, 10:06:59 PM
Quote from: BearLover on December 06, 2025, 09:54:40 PM
Quote from: Trotsky on December 06, 2025, 09:35:18 PM7, 7, 5, 6 tonight in the ECAC.

Q loses.  Union might be good.
Union is 34 in the NPI.

Dartmouth continues to trounce everyone, not just in score but in SOG. I have a hard time believing they're particularly good but at this point they might be odds-on favorites to make the NCAA tournament for the first time in 43 years. Which would be a shame.

Barring a massive collapse, I think there's a good shot they get in as an at large but there's still a lot of season left. Well coached team with great offensive execution, some rising young players, and a blue line that can create offense. I don't think their goaltending is anything to write home about and I think some of the more skilled teams nationally (e.g. Michigan) would carve their defense apart, but it's nice to have such a high NPI team in the conference


You're talking about Dartmouth's Croteau, right? If so can you explain your thinking here? He was just named HCA (Hockey Coaches Association) Goalie of the Month.

stereax

Quote from: Snowball on December 07, 2025, 02:14:42 PM
Quote from: stereax on December 06, 2025, 10:52:28 PM
Quote from: BearLover on December 06, 2025, 10:41:01 PMI don't know anything about goaltending but Keopple just doesn't look steady. So much wasted motion as compared to Cournoyer. Cournoyer has given up a few soft goals but he hasn't been sliding out of position like Keopple is prone to. It could nerves or something, he's not a small goalie but he kind of slides like an Iles or Shane, whereas Cournoyer sits still like a wall. I feel like Keopple has untapped potential but rolling with Cournoyer makes sense going forward.
Generally, goalies who slide around aren't in the right position and have to compensate with athleticism. The best goalies often do not look like they're the best - because they know where the puck is and they simply are there in time for the shot.

Appreciate this insight. I'd been trying to figure how Cournoyer has been so successful.
It was a talking point around Akira Schmid in the NJD/NYR series a few years back. Very positionally sound guy (at the time at least), compared to Vanecek who'd flop around the net like a fish.

There are goalies like Saros who primarily rely on athleticism (pretty sure Hasek was the poster child here), but that same reliance on movement to make saves is what causes more injuries and indirectly a shorter career of it. Modern goaltending is predicting the shot and being in position before it even goes off the stick. Especially with modern shooters' strategies, and the rising sh% and dropping sv% in the NHL and other leagues, playing a more positionally sound game conserves energy and decreases injury risk.

Keopple "wastes motion" because he isn't predicting where the shot is coming from. As such, he has to scramble to compensate - and not like Cournoyer's frequent tummy time, either, but mad scrambles from one end of the net to the other.

Good goalies have every shot hit their chest/leg pads. (Or as many as possible.) They make it look easy.

You're always going to have the athletic glove saves - of course - but they're not the point of goaltending. A boring goalie is a good goalie.
Law '27, Section C denizen, liveblogging from Lynah!

scoop85

Quote from: fastforward on December 06, 2025, 09:14:42 PMHow can you correctly pronounce a name and then immediately mispronounce it?

Yeah, pretty weak PxP guy. He was befuddled that Ryan's goal wasn't overturned due to goaltender interference; he apparently was unaware that there's no interference when the offensive player is driven into the goalie by a defender, compared with the SLU guy who on his own impeded Keopple's movement.