Alumni in the pros 25-26

[VIEWfromK]

Sullivan Mack got his first pro goal yesterday.

Back to back games now

[BearLover]

Bancroft has 0 points in 12 games in the AHL. He should try filing a petition with the NCAA to let him back into college. There are former pros playing on several other college teams. Under the "rule" that these pros must make minimum salary to remain college eligible, I believe he wouldn't qualify, but there are no rules as the NCAA is making it up as it goes along. Yes, I know this will never happen.

[Trotsky]

Kent Manderville was an explosive presence at Cornell (1.06 PPG).  He never became a scorer in the NHL (0.16 PPG), but he had a lengthy and successful career as a defensive forward. 

We do not know what Bancroft's expected role is.  Let's watch him develop and root for him to succeed and spread the good reputation of Cornell as a place to come to develop your skills.

[Weder]

Kent Manderville was an explosive presence at Cornell (1.06 PPG).  He never became a scorer in the NHL (0.16 PPG), but he had a lengthy and successful career as a defensive forward. 

We do not know what Bancroft's expected role is.  Let's watch him develop and root for him to succeed and spread the good reputation of Cornell as a place to come to develop your skills.

I forgot he played only two seasons at Cornell. He took a year off for Olympics training and just decided to go pro afterward, right?

[ugarte]

Kent Manderville was an explosive presence at Cornell (1.06 PPG).  He never became a scorer in the NHL (0.16 PPG), but he had a lengthy and successful career as a defensive forward. 

come on man ... manderville was scoring almost a point per game in the AHL by 22. it wasn't his role in the nhl but he didn't get to the league as a grinder.

[stereax]

Suda's getting a PTO with the AHL Isles!

[Trotsky]

Kent Manderville was an explosive presence at Cornell (1.06 PPG).  He never became a scorer in the NHL (0.16 PPG), but he had a lengthy and successful career as a defensive forward. 

come on man ... manderville was scoring almost a point per game in the AHL by 22. it wasn't his role in the nhl but he didn't get to the league as a grinder.

I don't agree with your larger point.  He was always at loggerheads with McCutcheon over being responsible defensively.  When he went to the Canadian Olympic team it was ironically there that he honed his abilities to play defense.  That got him to the Show, not his flash.  The high minors are awash with guys with long scoring careers who never get The Invitation because they did not round out their game.  It does your team no good to be 1.00 PPG and yet a -1 every night.

[stereax]

The high minors are awash with guys with long scoring careers who never get The Invitation because they did not round out their game.  It does your team no good to be 1.00 PPG and yet a -1 every night.

This exactly. Unless you're like, Fucking Elite (Ovechkin, PKane, etc) you need to be able to play without the puck. I can find defensively irresponsible wingers on most teams in the AHL and probably half the KHL too.

[BearLover]

Playing well without the puck is a necessary, but far from sufficient, condition to making it in the NHL. Realistically, if Bancroft or anyone else wants to make it, they had better be taking care of the puck and contributing offensively also.

[Dafatone]

Every forward who has made the NHL from Cornell since I started following (starting with Moulson) has been defensively responsible.

Moulson himself is probably one of the lesser defenders we've gotten to the NHL, but he scored a bunch of NHL goals.

[ugarte]

Kent Manderville was an explosive presence at Cornell (1.06 PPG).  He never became a scorer in the NHL (0.16 PPG), but he had a lengthy and successful career as a defensive forward. 

come on man ... manderville was scoring almost a point per game in the AHL by 22. it wasn't his role in the nhl but he didn't get to the league as a grinder.

I don't agree with your larger point.  He was always at loggerheads with McCutcheon over being responsible defensively.  When he went to the Canadian Olympic team it was ironically there that he honed his abilities to play defense.  That got him to the Show, not his flash.  The high minors are awash with guys with long scoring careers who never get The Invitation because they did not round out their game.  It does your team no good to be 1.00 PPG and yet a -1 every night.

I'm not making the larger point you think i am. I'm saying that manderville is a bad example of a guy who was in the NHL despite not being a point producer. in the minors, when he had to earn his ticket to the show, he was scoring. he did also have to prove that he could round it his game but that means being more than a minor league scorer, not being someone who, against lesser competition, can't score.

I am not saying that Bancroft made a mistake in leaving (though it would be nice to have him) or that he's dunzo but I am saying that kent manderville is a terrible comp for a guy who isn't scoring in the AHL at 24 regardless of how well he is (or is not) playing defense. The best thing that can be said right now is that he hasn't been shipped down to the ECHL so he's probably doing something right.

[BearLover]

Every forward who has made the NHL from Cornell since I started following (starting with Moulson) has been defensively responsible.

Moulson himself is probably one of the lesser defenders we've gotten to the NHL, but he scored a bunch of NHL goals.

Yes, but like I said—-being defensively responsible is necessary, but not sufficient. The Cornellians who have made it to the NHL since Moulson put up a lot of points in the lower levels too. Moreover, a lot of qualities that make one a good a good defender, or reliable with the puck, also make one a good scorer: speed, hockey sense, quick passing. It's obviously way too early to say Bancroft made a mistake leaving, but he's going to need to start contributing offensively if he wants to have any shot of making it.

[The Rancor]

I think Matt Moulson is underrated as an NHL player, and as a Cornell Alum- that said, being on a line with Johnny Tavares certainly helped his point total. FWIW they were also childhood friends.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

Watching the NY Sirens / Vancouver Goldeneyes game on Channel 9 in New York.  There's 5 Cornell alumnae on the rosters (Zandee-Hart, Bourbonnais, and O'Neill for NY.  Daniel and Chan for Vancouver).  The only one I haven't seen on the ice yet is O'Neill.  And Zandee-Hart was the interview in the 1st intermission.

3-0 Vancouver after 1.

Edit:  O'Neill is playing. 

[David Harding]

Cornell Club of Chicago had a quick meet and greet with Coach Cam Abbott before the Chicago Wolves - Milwaukee Admirals game this evening.  He and his family are settling in here.