Cornell vs. Albany 5/11 - NCAA Lacrosse First Round

[JasonN95]

IIRC, Albany circa 2100 (if not, then Stony Brook?) had a goalie so talented with stick-handling that on Albany man-ups, he played behind the opponent net as a feeder.

I think that was Brett Queener, who was Albany's goalie in the Cornell-Albany 2007 NCAA game. He joined the man-up unit in that game as I recall, with the backup goalie coming to the game for those stretches. That game has my favorite Cornell lax moment that I saw in real time (not live, but was watching on tv): in the waning moments of the OT, Max Seibold, on a bad leg, chasing down a UAlbany player and making a leaping trail check, getting the ball, and starting the fast break that led to the winning goal n Glynn with just a few seconds left. Queener broke his goal stick over his leg in frustration.

[dag14]

The rule about how many long sticks or wide nets applies to the whole field, not how many must be in the defensive half, so one more go on attack with a bigger stick isn't an infraction and anyway it's harder to shoot with long sticks or wide nets.

IIRC, Albany circa 2100 (if not, then Stony Brook?) had a goalie so talented with stick-handling that on Albany man-ups, he played behind the opponent net as a feeder.

Albany -- Brent Queener who transferred to UAlbany in 2006.

[Weder]

The rule about how many long sticks or wide nets applies to the whole field, not how many must be in the defensive half, so one more go on attack with a bigger stick isn't an infraction and anyway it's harder to shoot with long sticks or wide nets.

IIRC, Albany circa 2100 (if not, then Stony Brook?) had a goalie so talented with stick-handling that on Albany man-ups, he played behind the opponent net as a feeder.

Albany -- Brent Queener who transferred to UAlbany in 2006.

Am i misremembering, or was there also an Ohio State goalie who scored against us in a first-round NCAA game several years back?

[RichH]

The rule about how many long sticks or wide nets applies to the whole field, not how many must be in the defensive half, so one more go on attack with a bigger stick isn't an infraction and anyway it's harder to shoot with long sticks or wide nets.

IIRC, Albany circa 2100 (if not, then Stony Brook?) had a goalie so talented with stick-handling that on Albany man-ups, he played behind the opponent net as a feeder.

Albany -- Brent Queener who transferred to UAlbany in 2006.

Am i misremembering, or was there also an Ohio State goalie who scored against us in a first-round NCAA game several years back?

Exactly what I was thinking when I read this. I know where I was watching it, so I'm guessing 2008.

Edit: Yep, we were the 8 seed at Schoellkopf.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_NCAA_Division_I_men's_lacrosse_tournament

Unseeded Ohio State bested #8 Cornell 15–7. The opening goal of this game was scored by Ohio State goaltender Stefan Schroder, who ran the length of the field to put one past the Big Red netminder.

[CU77]

It feels like the offside rule in lax is more like the dynamic shift change in hockey (or lax) than offside in hockey. A microviolation of the blue line will immediately stop play or void a goal on a challenge. There's more of an honor system about it in lax. Yes?

Not an honor system in that most violations get caught and result in a penalty. If a player goes offside, notices, and quickly goes back onside, the refs may miss it.

[semsox]

IIRC, Albany circa 2100 (if not, then Stony Brook?) had a goalie so talented with stick-handling that on Albany man-ups, he played behind the opponent net as a feeder.

I think that was Brett Queener, who was Albany's goalie in the Cornell-Albany 2007 NCAA game. He joined the man-up unit in that game as I recall, with the backup goalie coming to the game for those stretches. That game has my favorite Cornell lax moment that I saw in real time (not live, but was watching on tv): in the waning moments of the OT, Max Seibold, on a bad leg, chasing down a UAlbany player and making a leaping trail check, getting the ball, and starting the fast break that led to the winning goal n Glynn with just a few seconds left. Queener broke his goal stick over his leg in frustration.

I actually was at that game, and it's really hard to overstate how insane that play was. No video could do justice to how big of a gap Seibald closed in how short of a time, followed by the mad scramble to hit Glynn on the crease.

[ugarte]

It feels like the offside rule in lax is more like the dynamic shift change in hockey (or lax) than offside in hockey. A microviolation of the blue line will immediately stop play or void a goal on a challenge. There's more of an honor system about it in lax. Yes?

Not an honor system in that most violations get caught and result in a penalty. If a player goes offside, notices, and quickly goes back onside, the refs may miss it.

my question is more, if a player is running back to the defensive zone as a long pole is joining the attack (specifically to stay onside), will they call that crossover as tightly as they do the blue line?

[CU77]

No, not as tightly. But the situation you describe is rare. Remember that 3 players on each team (nominally the midfielders) are free to move across the line. So the much more common situation is that a pole carries the ball across the line; as he does so, a middie (still in the defensive zone) notices, and so does not cross the line. No one needs to run back to the defensive zone.

[ugarte]

No, not as tightly. But the situation you describe is rare. Remember that 3 players on each team (nominally the midfielders) are free to move across the line. So the much more common situation is that a pole carries the ball across the line; as he does so, a middie (still in the defensive zone) notices, and so does not cross the line. No one needs to run back to the defensive zone.

got it

[JasonN95]

IIRC, Albany circa 2100 (if not, then Stony Brook?) had a goalie so talented with stick-handling that on Albany man-ups, he played behind the opponent net as a feeder.

I think that was Brett Queener, who was Albany's goalie in the Cornell-Albany 2007 NCAA game. He joined the man-up unit in that game as I recall, with the backup goalie coming to the game for those stretches. That game has my favorite Cornell lax moment that I saw in real time (not live, but was watching on tv): in the waning moments of the OT, Max Seibold, on a bad leg, chasing down a UAlbany player and making a leaping trail check, getting the ball, and starting the fast break that led to the winning goal n Glynn with just a few seconds left. Queener broke his goal stick over his leg in frustration.

I actually was at that game, and it's really hard to overstate how insane that play was. No video could do justice to how big of a gap Seibald closed in how short of a time, followed by the mad scramble to hit Glynn on the crease.

I looked on YouTube for the game/highlights and couldn't find it, but I actually have a video of the play and winning goal from the broadcast that I captured shortly after from the recording on my TiVo (the young ones are asking, "TiVo what?"). It was using budget equipment for the day and the broadcast wasn't HD, so it's so-so quality. I've never uploaded anything to YouTube but will see if I can figure it out.