Ben Robertson transfer

Started by Big Dingus, April 07, 2025, 02:05:57 PM

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Swampy

Quote from: BearLoverDenver's NIL collective goes towards three sports: basketball, gymnastics, and lacrosse. No hockey.

https://www.denvernil.com/

Hockey or not, this mechanism legitimizes side payments, which make it easy to get around the IL's prohibition of athletic scholarships.

Quote from: Crimson & Gold CollectiveIs the Crimson & Gold Collective affiliated with the University of Denver?
Following NCAA rules and regulations, the collective remains an independent third party that collaborates with DU student-athletes but is not affiliated with the university. Crimson & Gold Collective FAQ

Tcl123

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: BearLoverDenver's NIL collective goes towards three sports: basketball, gymnastics, and lacrosse. No hockey.

https://www.denvernil.com/
there is no way you actually believe that denver's gymnasts actually get more money than zeev buium. whether the collective is the method or not, that isn't happening.

Depends. They have a Livvy Dunne lookalike?

adamw

Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: BearLoverDenver's NIL collective goes towards three sports: basketball, gymnastics, and lacrosse. No hockey.

https://www.denvernil.com/

Hockey or not, this mechanism legitimizes side payments, which make it easy to get around the IL's prohibition of athletic scholarships.

Quote from: Crimson & Gold CollectiveIs the Crimson & Gold Collective affiliated with the University of Denver?
Following NCAA rules and regulations, the collective remains an independent third party that collaborates with DU student-athletes but is not affiliated with the university. Crimson & Gold Collective FAQ

This part from Denver's web site was also conveniently left out ...

QuoteWe are actively pursuing involvement from ALL athletic programs at the University of Denver.

if this was supposed to be some "gotcha" about Denver hockey not participating in NIL and rev share - then it's just comical. Again, instead of just replying with "Yeah, you're right" - we have to jump through hoops to find any nugget to justify a wrong opinion.
College Hockey News: http://www.collegehockeynews.com

BearLover

Quote from: adamw
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: BearLoverDenver's NIL collective goes towards three sports: basketball, gymnastics, and lacrosse. No hockey.

https://www.denvernil.com/

Hockey or not, this mechanism legitimizes side payments, which make it easy to get around the IL's prohibition of athletic scholarships.

Quote from: Crimson & Gold CollectiveIs the Crimson & Gold Collective affiliated with the University of Denver?
Following NCAA rules and regulations, the collective remains an independent third party that collaborates with DU student-athletes but is not affiliated with the university. Crimson & Gold Collective FAQ

This part from Denver's web site was also conveniently left out ...

QuoteWe are actively pursuing involvement from ALL athletic programs at the University of Denver.

if this was supposed to be some "gotcha" about Denver hockey not participating in NIL and rev share - then it's just comical. Again, instead of just replying with "Yeah, you're right" - we have to jump through hoops to find any nugget to justify a wrong opinion.
I just thought it was an interesting "nugget." Wasn't directed at you, and also don't know what "wrong opinion" you're referring to. It's just another piece of evidence NIL plays little to no role at places like Denver. Maybe that will change, or maybe it's not like that at other schools. Not interested in arguing about this anymore at all tbh, I literally just thought it was interesting.

ugarte

Quote from: BearLoverI'll ignore your condescending last sentence
that's the only one that mattered!

Trotsky

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: BearLoverI'll ignore your condescending last sentence
that's the only one that mattered!



stereax

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BearLover

Quote from: stereax on October 30, 2025, 03:46:27 PM
Quote from: rstott on October 30, 2025, 02:32:35 PMRobertson leading NCAA defensemen in scoring

https://www.quanthockey.com/ncaa/en/seasons/ncaa-defensemen-stats.html
1.25 assists per game. What the hell. Good for him.
Good for him in the literal sense that it is good for him.


Trotsky


abmarks

Ive been checking in on Robertson's performance periodically hoping to find him publicly quoted.on why he left. has been Still haven't seen that, but saw this today:

QuoteMichigan Daily

"When (Robertson) went in the portal, it's like, 'Dude, you're made to play at Michigan' with how he thinks the game," Michigan coach Brandon Naurato said Tuesday. "And he's responsible too, he's not high risk, high reward. He makes the right play at the right time."

Who knows if that's the rationale in Robertson's mind, but it's along the lines of why I thought he left; a more natural for his game.

Based on his performance up there to date, looks like he's really getting to show what he can do when surrounded with high end talent playing in a high powered offense.  Two years there (vs. here) will give him a much better shot at sticking in the show.

It's not just his assists.

  • 11 games, 0G, 11A, 11pts
  • P/PG: T4 on the team at 1.0
  • +/-: T1 at 11
  • TOI: leads team 19:26
  • PIM: 2
  • Blocked Shots: 2d on the team with 18.leader has 21, but 3rd is all the way down at 13

CHN has developed their CHIP stat, which I have no technical knowledge or understanding of how good a stat that is, but CHN describes it as Akin to WAR in baseball

Amongst defensemen, he's trailing only BU's Cole Hutson and Ty Hanson of UMD.


stereax

Quote from: abmarks on November 08, 2025, 07:12:17 PMIve been checking in on Robertson's performance periodically hoping to find him publicly quoted.on why he left. has been Still haven't seen that, but saw this today:

QuoteMichigan Daily

"When (Robertson) went in the portal, it's like, 'Dude, you're made to play at Michigan' with how he thinks the game," Michigan coach Brandon Naurato said Tuesday. "And he's responsible too, he's not high risk, high reward. He makes the right play at the right time."

Who knows if that's the rationale in Robertson's mind, but it's along the lines of why I thought he left; a more natural for his game.

Based on his performance up there to date, looks like he's really getting to show what he can do when surrounded with high end talent playing in a high powered offense.  Two years there (vs. here) will give him a much better shot at sticking in the show.

It's not just his assists.

  • 11 games, 0G, 11A, 11pts
  • P/PG: T4 on the team at 1.0
  • +/-: T1 at 11
  • TOI: leads team 19:26
  • PIM: 2
  • Blocked Shots: 2d on the team with 18.leader has 21, but 3rd is all the way down at 13

CHN has developed their CHIP stat, which I have no technical knowledge or understanding of how good a stat that is, but CHN describes it as Akin to WAR in baseball

Amongst defensemen, he's trailing only BU's Cole Hutson and Ty Hanson of UMD.


Wow. Good for him. Crazy stat.
Law '27, Section C denizen, liveblogging from Lynah!

Trotsky

He's doing well but that quote is just an empty platitude with zero meaning.

ugarte

i also think there are pretty good odds that the whisper network made it clear to robertson that there were opportunities to be had in the portal and seeing his name in the portal wasn't the first time someone in michigan noticed that he'd be a good fit