Portal 2025

Started by Trotsky, April 01, 2025, 08:37:08 AM

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David Harding

My apologies.  This isn't Cornell or hockey, but I couldn't find another thread on The Portal in general.  There's a graphic that shows where the starting five of each sweet sixteen team played as a freshman.  It's dramatic.  https://ericzorn.substack.com/i/159486976/good-sports

Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: David HardingMy apologies.  This isn't Cornell or hockey, but I couldn't find another thread on The Portal in general.  There's a graphic that shows where the starting five of each sweet sixteen team played as a freshman.  It's dramatic.  https://ericzorn.substack.com/i/159486976/good-sports

Dramatic indeed.

jtwcornell91

Quote from: David HardingMy apologies.  This isn't Cornell or hockey, but I couldn't find another thread on The Portal in general.  There's a graphic that shows where the starting five of each sweet sixteen team played as a freshman.  It's dramatic.  https://ericzorn.substack.com/i/159486976/good-sports

The whole discussion about what to do about deliberate fouls at the end of a game reminds me of why I don't care for basketball.  The analogous strategy in hockey (pulling the goalie for an extra attacker) is so much more exciting.

ugarte

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Quote from: David HardingMy apologies.  This isn't Cornell or hockey, but I couldn't find another thread on The Portal in general.  There's a graphic that shows where the starting five of each sweet sixteen team played as a freshman.  It's dramatic.  https://ericzorn.substack.com/i/159486976/good-sports

The whole discussion about what to do about deliberate fouls at the end of a game reminds me of why I don't care for basketball.  The analogous strategy in hockey (pulling the goalie for an extra attacker) is so much more exciting.
Someone presented a paper at Sloan about optimal strategy that said the trailing team should start fouling much earlier and in much closer situations than is typical and the best response i saw was that if the strategy actually caught on, David Stern would have the author killed in public as a warning to others.

thread drift is fine. it's the offseason.

upprdeck

Basketball should only allow time outs during dead balls

Hockey should only allow line changes for the team that didn't cause the puck to go dead.

CFB should never allow Timeouts once OT has started

BB and FB should never allow back to back timeouts.

Trotsky

Quote from: upprdeckBasketball should only allow time outs during dead balls

Hockey should only allow line changes for the team that didn't cause the puck to go dead.

CFB should never allow Timeouts once OT has started

BB and FB should never allow back to back timeouts.
No time outs, no substitutions.


arugula

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: upprdeckBasketball should only allow time outs during dead balls

Hockey should only allow line changes for the team that didn't cause the puck to go dead.

CFB should never allow Timeouts once OT has started

BB and FB should never allow back to back timeouts.
No time outs, no substitutions.



Jonathan Jonathan Jonathan.

jtwcornell91

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: David HardingMy apologies.  This isn't Cornell or hockey, but I couldn't find another thread on The Portal in general.  There's a graphic that shows where the starting five of each sweet sixteen team played as a freshman.  It's dramatic.  https://ericzorn.substack.com/i/159486976/good-sports

The whole discussion about what to do about deliberate fouls at the end of a game reminds me of why I don't care for basketball.  The analogous strategy in hockey (pulling the goalie for an extra attacker) is so much more exciting.
Someone presented a paper at Sloan about optimal strategy that said the trailing team should start fouling much earlier and in much closer situations than is typical and the best response i saw was that if the strategy actually caught on, David Stern would have the author killed in public as a warning to others.

thread drift is fine. it's the offseason.

Wasn't there a similar analysis about going for it on fourth down in football: a riskier strategy would win more games on average, but be more likely to get the coach fired?

Trotsky

Quote from: jtwcornell91Wasn't there a similar analysis about going for it on fourth down in football: a riskier strategy would win more games on average, but be more likely to get the coach fired?
Yes.  If owners were intelligent, it would be the right move for a coach, but the graph of intelligence against wealth is a bell curve.

Swampy

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jtwcornell91Wasn't there a similar analysis about going for it on fourth down in football: a riskier strategy would win more games on average, but be more likely to get the coach fired?
Yes.  If owners were intelligent, it would be the right move for a coach, but the graph of intelligence against wealth is a bell curve.

With mean = ? & s.d. = ?

ugarte

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Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: David HardingMy apologies.  This isn't Cornell or hockey, but I couldn't find another thread on The Portal in general.  There's a graphic that shows where the starting five of each sweet sixteen team played as a freshman.  It's dramatic.  https://ericzorn.substack.com/i/159486976/good-sports

The whole discussion about what to do about deliberate fouls at the end of a game reminds me of why I don't care for basketball.  The analogous strategy in hockey (pulling the goalie for an extra attacker) is so much more exciting.
Someone presented a paper at Sloan about optimal strategy that said the trailing team should start fouling much earlier and in much closer situations than is typical and the best response i saw was that if the strategy actually caught on, David Stern would have the author killed in public as a warning to others.

thread drift is fine. it's the offseason.

Wasn't there a similar analysis about going for it on fourth down in football: a riskier strategy would win more games on average, but be more likely to get the coach fired?
well, the latter wasn't part of the study but it is the reason the old guard adapted to going for it on 4th more often. it was mostly the young analytics-minded coaches (and belicheck who never looks a gift edge in the mouth) who started incorporating the data into their playcalling.

kaburke00

Ben Robertson entered the Portal 4/7/25.