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[BearLover]

Somehow I don't think a drug fueled threesome equates to resisting nazis.

https://www.tmz.com/2026/10/09/cornell-jane-doe-texts-with-accused-fraternity-brother-about-rumors/

Trostky is just LARPing again. This obviously has no relation to resisting Nazis.

With that being said, if your point is that the victim changed her tune, well, I don't think that has much bearing on whether she was sexually assaulted. She was not aware of the men inviting their entire frat house into the bedroom, and even beyond that there is the question of her consent under the influence of drugs which the frat gave to her.

[underskill]

It does have a bearing on how the investigation was handled and the need for letting the process play out. We should have learned that from the Duke and UVA cases.

[BearLover]

It does have a bearing on how the investigation was handled and the need for letting the process play out. We should have learned that from the Duke and UVA cases.

We should let the process play out. But just because Jane Doe consented to a threesome with two guys doesn't mean she consented to sex with a host of other guys.

And at the time she was evidently supportive of the two guys, she hadn't realized yet they had summoned the rest of their frat into the bedroom.

[TimV]

Maybe countenancing the rape culture of jocks and fraternities for the last century?

I agree that something MUST be done.  You start.  Tear up your hockey tickets and demand to have your name removed from the season ticket list.

[RichH]

The point of campus PD is to protect Cornell from liability arising from students' actions.  HR is not there for you.

Maybe what I want is for campus PD to take "PD" out of their names and just be campus security or something, then.

The name was changed from something like Cornell Public Safety to Cornell University Police while I was there in the early 90's.  I believe the idea was to give them more respect and authority.  Someone else on here may remember more details.

This archived article from 2004 notes that CUPD are peace officers, not police officers: Link.

Article from 2006 notes "almost 16 years" after a name change from peace officer to police officer, so 1990: Link.

CUPD now has full police authority, including arrests, as per the most recent annual safety report. However, they are technically still peace officers, from my understanding.

Sometime while I was an undergrad, so 1992-1996, they announced the name change from "Department of Public Safety" to "Cornell University Police Department." The signs changed, new paint jobs on the cars, and (I'm a little hazy on this) the officers were now allowed to carry firearms. They went from being the people who answered the blue light phones to more of a force who showed up at loud parties and wrote a ton more parking tickets.

[upprdeck]

when did they start writing parking tickets? they have a whole group who does that outside of the police

[Trotsky]

If you want slam your head repeatedly into a desk until you lose consciousness, read what Megan Kelley had to contribute to this edifying dialog.

tldr: Jane Doe was down for a gang bang because she's not the type who typically attracts guys so it made her feel pretty.

Yes, I wish so much I was making that up.

[Trotsky]

Maybe countenancing the rape culture of jocks and fraternities for the last century?

I agree that something MUST be done.  You start.  Tear up your hockey tickets and demand to have your name removed from the season ticket list.

This is too stupid to respond to, but for the record I have not given a dollar to Cornell in over 20 years.

[Trotsky]

Somehow I don't think a drug fueled threesome equates to resisting nazis.

Rape isn't bad I guess.

You folks are charmers, I'll give you that.  Frat material, I'd say.

The point, for "those of you incapable of understanding" -- A. Mintz, circa 1989: these fine upstanding undergrads are saying "rape is bad, m'kay," and they'll do anything to stop it short of inconveniencing themselves in the slightest.  Evidently they learned these values from parents like the respondents here, since the majority eLF opinion is you fight evil unless you have to go out of your way. 

OK, so far so NYT.  I'm sure everyone who so responds also feels they would be the White Rose if they were in Berlin in 1943.  But the truth is: no, you wouldn't.  You are why shit never changes, because while others suffer it is not, after all, an emergency, until it affects you.  This is exactly what Singer was on about when he said we're all monsters.  A paper I wish I'd never read, since then I've never been able to shake it.

So, like the rest of you assholes, I'm a lazy selfish monster too.  But hey, at least, I'm not a hypocrite.

Kids: don't be like us.  And for God's sake don't listen to your elders when they tell you to be sensible in the face of evil.  And yeah, I know, you will.  Cornellians have shall we say a very high frequency of this type of virulence, and it's why nothing will ever get fixed.  But now you've been told, so maybe on your death bed you'll think "I prolly should have listened to that handsome man."

[tretiak]

Rape isn't bad I guess.

You folks are charmers, I'll give you that.  Frat material, I'd say...[I deleted most of the navel-gazing]...

So, like the rest of you assholes, I'm a lazy selfish monster too.  But hey, at least, I'm not a hypocrite.

This is a horrific event that's shaken the university. Any discussion about it deserves respect. You're one of the oldest posters here. Stop trying to make everything about you and grow up.