Cornell vs. Princeton 1/17

Started by Iceberg, January 17, 2025, 10:30:48 AM

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Trotsky

It's better than losing. -- Nuke LaLouche

The Rancor

Quote from: TrotskyI hear this place is restricted, Wang, so don't tell 'em you're Jewish, okay?

Thank you for saying it.

ice

Keopple played a good game after he got warmed up.  

All the shoving/punching was surprising.  Don't know who the instigators were but Cornell needs to be more disciplined, no matter what.  

The biggest difference between Princeton and Sacred Heart was their goalies.

BearLover

Cornell had a lot of puck luck in this game. Per CHN's xG stat,* our expected goals were 2.4 and Princeton's was 1.9. Cornell exceeded xG by 3.6 and Princeton by .1. This suggests Keopple played an average game, overall.

*AFAIK the CHN xG stat only takes into account shot location, not type of shot or other variables considered by more advanced xG models commonly used. I would guess that the CHN xG stat is more reliable than a layperson's own eyes, despite its limitations, which is why I reference it here. I don't have access to the more advanced xG models, though they seem to be out there for college hockey (eg. the RPI hockey blog seems to reference them).

Dafatone

Quote from: BearLoverCornell had a lot of puck luck in this game. Per CHN's xG stat,* our expected goals were 2.4 and Princeton's was 1.9. Cornell exceeded xG by 3.6 and Princeton by .1. This suggests Keopple played an average game, overall.

*AFAIK the CHN xG stat only takes into account shot location, not type of shot or other variables considered by more advanced xG models commonly used. I would guess that the CHN xG stat is more reliable than a layperson's own eyes, despite its limitations, which is why I reference it here. I don't have access to the more advanced xG models, though they seem to be out there for college hockey (eg. the RPI hockey blog seems to reference them).

Princeton played better than the final score. To keep beating the same drum, we were able to clear a bit of space down low on both ends and that seemed to make the difference.

The Rancor

Quote from: BearLoverCornell had a lot of puck luck in this game. Per CHN's xG stat,* our expected goals were 2.4 and Princeton's was 1.9. Cornell exceeded xG by 3.6 and Princeton by .1. This suggests Keopple played an average game, overall.

*AFAIK the CHN xG stat only takes into account shot location, not type of shot or other variables considered by more advanced xG models commonly used. I would guess that the CHN xG stat is more reliable than a layperson's own eyes, despite its limitations, which is why I reference it here. I don't have access to the more advanced xG models, though they seem to be out there for college hockey (eg. the RPI hockey blog seems to reference them).

Can't be happy at all with a win. Exhausting.

BearLover

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Quote from: BearLoverCornell had a lot of puck luck in this game. Per CHN's xG stat,* our expected goals were 2.4 and Princeton's was 1.9. Cornell exceeded xG by 3.6 and Princeton by .1. This suggests Keopple played an average game, overall.

*AFAIK the CHN xG stat only takes into account shot location, not type of shot or other variables considered by more advanced xG models commonly used. I would guess that the CHN xG stat is more reliable than a layperson's own eyes, despite its limitations, which is why I reference it here. I don't have access to the more advanced xG models, though they seem to be out there for college hockey (eg. the RPI hockey blog seems to reference them).

Can't be happy at all with a win. Exhausting.
Sorry for tiring you out. I'm satisfied with the win, and mentioned earlier Keopple looked good after the first goal. Sorry, do you want me to throw a parade for beating *Princeton* in a year we were supposed to compete for the national championship?

HeafDog

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Tcl123

Quote from: TrotskyI've been rereading The Sun Also Rises.  Fuck Princeton.  Those people are awful.

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scoop85

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Brother of our Devlin

HeafDog

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Safety Devlin

Iceberg

Quote from: iceKeopple played a good game after he got warmed up.  

All the shoving/punching was surprising.  Don't know who the instigators were but Cornell needs to be more disciplined, no matter what.  

The biggest difference between Princeton and Sacred Heart was their goalies.


I had the misfortune of sitting near relatives and friends of the Princeton starter this year again and the one woman (I assume mother) was thankfully a lot quieter this time. Near the end of the game, one of the kids in the adjacent section ran through a bit of the telephone taunt and I don't think the group liked that too much, lol

Jeff Hopkins '82

My 2 cents:  

We started off well, but Koepple should have stopped the first goal, not to mention the D never should have let him skate in so cleanly. It looked straight in from my angle (I was parallel to the top of the circles),  That took the wind out of our sails for a while, and Princeton was beating us on the puck in the corners.  Fortunately we got one back against the run of play, which pepped the guys up.  After the second goal we were in full control. From that point, we pounded them in both zones.  I think by the end we'd worn them out.  

Castagna's goal was a beauty.  Hopefully he's got his mojo back.

The power play was awful.  We kept trying to get the puck down low, but with Princeton bunched up in front of the goalie, there was no place to go with it.  So...toss it back to the D, the 2 D-men pass it back and forth, and then drop it back down low with no place to go with it.  Lather rinse repeat.  Ugly.  The guys on the point need to shoot occasionally, just to keep the PK honest.

OTOH, our PK looked really good.  The goal Princeton scored was a seeing eye shot and Koepple was screened on that one.

I don't think anybody in the rink saw the 5:00 major.  When they started reviewing the replay, I had no idea what was going on.  It sure took a long time to get a decision.  And that may be the first time I've ever heard of a face-masking penalty in hockey in over 50 years of following the sport.  I'm not even sure what it is.  Is that grabbing the face mask like in football?

Anyway, it was nice to get a decisive win.  Hopefully this is the start of something lasting.

ugarte

Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82I don't think anybody in the rink saw the 5:00 major.  When they started reviewing the replay, I had no idea what was going on.  It sure took a long time to get a decision.  And that may be the first time I've ever heard of a face-masking penalty in hockey in over 50 years of following the sport.  I'm not even sure what it is.  Is that grabbing the face mask like in football?
Apparently so. I've never heard of it either but that's what happened. The Princeton guy popped Kovich in the mask and Kovich responded by grabbing his mask back and giving a tug. I didn't expect hockey gloves to allow the fingers that much freedom, tbh.