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Started by Trotsky, January 12, 2025, 11:23:13 AM

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Trotsky

This should be a lot better than a gen pop site.  The decline into idiocy is relatively recent.

Trotsky

Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: Trotsky5 point weekend for the first time this season.  Just keep it going and build conference points.  The ECAC is what matters now.  For my first 20+ years as a Cornell fan it was all that mattered at all.  We couldn't even conceive of an NCAA title.

I don't understand this. If your first 20 years ended this year, you would have started in 2005, by which time we'd won two NCAA titles. In fact, any time after 1970 would have such preconceptions. And the Frozen Four trips (1973, 1980, 2003) certainly should have helped conceptually, as would 1968 & 1969, when we made the FF but did not win the championship. It therefore follows that the inability to conceive an NCAA title must have ended in 1967 (or Fall 1966, when the Faithful could first witness the eventual Frozen Four team, backstopped by the Big Kid. This implies your first 20+ years must have begun in 1946 or earlier. And if you were 18 at the time (or 17, having skipped a year in New York City's SP program), you would have been born around 1929. This would make you 96 or older. Perhaps you are. But then I would suspect it's the state of your memory today, rather than that of your conceptions during your first 20+ years, that's most relevant.

1982-2001.

ugarte

I definitely had my sights higher from 1990-1991 before we lost Manderville and Ratushny to the Olympics, never to return. maybe unrealistic but true all the same.

CU2007

Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: Trotsky5 point weekend for the first time this season.  Just keep it going and build conference points.  The ECAC is what matters now.  For my first 20+ years as a Cornell fan it was all that mattered at all.  We couldn't even conceive of an NCAA title.

I don't understand this. If your first 20 years ended this year, you would have started in 2005, by which time we'd won two NCAA titles. In fact, any time after 1970 would have such preconceptions. And the Frozen Four trips (1973, 1980, 2003) certainly should have helped conceptually, as would 1968 & 1969, when we made the FF but did not win the championship. It therefore follows that the inability to conceive an NCAA title must have ended in 1967 (or Fall 1966, when the Faithful could first witness the eventual Frozen Four team, backstopped by the Big Kid. This implies your first 20+ years must have begun in 1946 or earlier. And if you were 18 at the time (or 17, having skipped a year in New York City's SP program), you would have been born around 1929. This would make you 96 or older. Perhaps you are. But then I would suspect it's the state of your memory today, rather than that of your conceptions during your first 20+ years, that's most relevant.

There's 1 or 2 people on here who only care about winning the ECAC and the NCAA tournament functions as some sort of barely relevant additional nice-to-have.

BearLover

Quote from: chimpfoodThe amount of oldhead takes that go unopposed on this forum is outlandish.
I'm honestly surprised others here agree with me about the fish. I thought I was alone in thinking that. It's just really wasteful and messy and sometimes gives the other team a free power play. Living things get killed for food and then we purchase the carcasses just to splatter them on the ice before a hockey game?

arugula

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: Trotsky5 point weekend for the first time this season.  Just keep it going and build conference points.  The ECAC is what matters now.  For my first 20+ years as a Cornell fan it was all that mattered at all.  We couldn't even conceive of an NCAA title.

I confess that in 86 I dared to dream.

I don't understand this. If your first 20 years ended this year, you would have started in 2005, by which time we'd won two NCAA titles. In fact, any time after 1970 would have such preconceptions. And the Frozen Four trips (1973, 1980, 2003) certainly should have helped conceptually, as would 1968 & 1969, when we made the FF but did not win the championship. It therefore follows that the inability to conceive an NCAA title must have ended in 1967 (or Fall 1966, when the Faithful could first witness the eventual Frozen Four team, backstopped by the Big Kid. This implies your first 20+ years must have begun in 1946 or earlier. And if you were 18 at the time (or 17, having skipped a year in New York City's SP program), you would have been born around 1929. This would make you 96 or older. Perhaps you are. But then I would suspect it's the state of your memory today, rather than that of your conceptions during your first 20+ years, that's most relevant.

1982-2001.

arugula

Quote from: arugula
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: Trotsky5 point weekend for the first time this season.  Just keep it going and build conference points.  The ECAC is what matters now.  For my first 20+ years as a Cornell fan it was all that mattered at all.  We couldn't even conceive of an NCAA title.

I confess that in 86 I dared to dream.

I don't understand this. If your first 20 years ended this year, you would have started in 2005, by which time we'd won two NCAA titles. In fact, any time after 1970 would have such preconceptions. And the Frozen Four trips (1973, 1980, 2003) certainly should have helped conceptually, as would 1968 & 1969, when we made the FF but did not win the championship. It therefore follows that the inability to conceive an NCAA title must have ended in 1967 (or Fall 1966, when the Faithful could first witness the eventual Frozen Four team, backstopped by the Big Kid. This implies your first 20+ years must have begun in 1946 or earlier. And if you were 18 at the time (or 17, having skipped a year in New York City's SP program), you would have been born around 1929. This would make you 96 or older. Perhaps you are. But then I would suspect it's the state of your memory today, rather than that of your conceptions during your first 20+ years, that's most relevant.

1982-2001.


In 86 I dared to dream.

adamw

Quote from: ugarteI definitely had my sights higher from 1990-1991 before we lost Manderville and Ratushny to the Olympics, never to return. maybe unrealistic but true all the same.

Given that Kent Manderville scored a huge goal in the 1991 NCAA Tournament, I feel like you have some facts out of whack here.
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marty

Quote from: adamw
Quote from: ugarteI definitely had my sights higher from 1990-1991 before we lost Manderville and Ratushny to the Olympics, never to return. maybe unrealistic but true all the same.

Given that Kent Manderville scored a huge goal in the 1991 NCAA Tournament, I feel like you have some facts out of whack here.

Never let the facts get in the way of an eye witness memory.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

Give My Regards

Quote from: marty
Quote from: adamw
Quote from: ugarteI definitely had my sights higher from 1990-1991 before we lost Manderville and Ratushny to the Olympics, never to return. maybe unrealistic but true all the same.

Given that Kent Manderville scored a huge goal in the 1991 NCAA Tournament, I feel like you have some facts out of whack here.

Never let the facts get in the way of an eye witness memory.

I read (or mis-read) the original post as meaning they had high hopes for 1990-91, the year before we lost Manderville and Ratushny to the Olympics ('92).  My way-too-vivid memories of that season may have interfered with my perception there.

If we're talking "most disappointing seasons in Cornell hockey history", I know this is more than four years ago, but 1991 is way the hell up there for me.  As is 2013 for very different reasons.
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ugarte

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Quote from: marty
Quote from: adamw
Quote from: ugarteI definitely had my sights higher from 1990-1991 before we lost Manderville and Ratushny to the Olympics, never to return. maybe unrealistic but true all the same.

Given that Kent Manderville scored a huge goal in the 1991 NCAA Tournament, I feel like you have some facts out of whack here.

Never let the facts get in the way of an eye witness memory.

I read (or mis-read) the original post as meaning they had high hopes for 1990-91, the year before we lost Manderville and Ratushny to the Olympics ('92).  My way-too-vivid memories of that season may have interfered with my perception there.
That is, of course, what i meant. I had high hopes for the team in 1991 and going forward with two stud underclassmen then we lost them both to Team Canada after the 1990-91 season.

Trotsky

Quote from: CU2007There's 1 or 2 people on here who only care about winning the ECAC and the NCAA tournament functions as some sort of barely relevant additional nice-to-have.

Take out the provoking "only" and "barely relevant" and you have me.

Every year my goal is to win the ECAC Tournament.  Of course I would love to win a National Championship; that would be spectacular.  But it isn't the primary aim.

I guess it is a difference in life philosophy.  I set a realistic goal and am deeply satisfied if they achieve it.  Of course if there is more it's joyful, but it's ancillary.

chimpfood

I was listening to the CHN podcast and it got me thinking if we might add another transfer or two for next year. We're graduating a bunch of guys and the incoming class is small and some guys have been disappointing in juniors. With the chl rules and limited roster spots likely affecting other teams and AICs entire team entering the portal, there may be more proven college players available.

Trotsky

Quote from: ugarteThat is, of course, what i meant.
FWIW I read it that way first pass.  I thought it was obvious.

abmarks

Quote from: BearLoverCornell has trailed at some point in 15 of 17 games this season. Not just been tied—trailed! We rarely play with the lead. Cornell hockey has historically had a reputation of protecting a small lead in the third period with suffocating defense. This year, though, I don't believe we've gone into the third period with a 1-goal lead a single time? And we've gone into the third with a 2-goal lead exactly once (first game vs NoDak)? Really crazy stuff.

On the Q broadcast, the announcers were talking about how good Shaf's teams