11/1 vs North Dakota

[BearLover]

What's the deal with Quinnipiac? ... Quinnipiac is in that same bucket with Cornell where they're good in the ECAC partially because the ECAC is pretty terrible, right? From my understanding.

The short version is that Quinnipiac is often viewed around here as barely a step above a community college in terms of acceptance rate, in a conference otherwise comprised of six Ivies and five historically strong liberal arts and STEM institutions, that basically bought their way to athletic greatness. Not to say that any coach could've accomplished the same thing that Pecknold has with what was a mediocre D-III-then-D-II team when he took over thirty years ago just by spending money. But it has left an especially bad taste in some Lynah Faithful mouths because over the same thirty years, Schafer has accomplished *nearly* as much, and somewhat more consistently, with no scholarships, much higher admissions standards, and a culture that doesn't encourage individual stars, but no national title, and only one Frozen Four appearance.

That's the short version. ::banana::

While this is mostly true, the fixation on Quinnipiac being a bad academic school is kind of strange...there are quite a few schools in the ECAC, and many more across college hockey, with very high acceptance rates and a weak national ranking (or whatever other metric you want to pick to rip on a school's academics).

[Trotsky]

What's the deal with Quinnipiac? ... Quinnipiac is in that same bucket with Cornell where they're good in the ECAC partially because the ECAC is pretty terrible, right? From my understanding.

The short version is that Quinnipiac is often viewed around here as barely a step above a community college in terms of acceptance rate, in a conference otherwise comprised of six Ivies and five historically strong liberal arts and STEM institutions, that basically bought their way to athletic greatness. Not to say that any coach could've accomplished the same thing that Pecknold has with what was a mediocre D-III-then-D-II team when he took over thirty years ago just by spending money. But it has left an especially bad taste in some Lynah Faithful mouths because over the same thirty years, Schafer has accomplished *nearly* as much, and somewhat more consistently, with no scholarships, much higher admissions standards, and a culture that doesn't encourage individual stars, but no national title, and only one Frozen Four appearance.

That's the short version. ::banana::

Oh, there's a shorter version.

[Trotsky]

What's the deal with Quinnipiac? ... Quinnipiac is in that same bucket with Cornell where they're good in the ECAC partially because the ECAC is pretty terrible, right? From my understanding.

The short version is that Quinnipiac is often viewed around here as barely a step above a community college in terms of acceptance rate, in a conference otherwise comprised of six Ivies and five historically strong liberal arts and STEM institutions, that basically bought their way to athletic greatness. Not to say that any coach could've accomplished the same thing that Pecknold has with what was a mediocre D-III-then-D-II team when he took over thirty years ago just by spending money. But it has left an especially bad taste in some Lynah Faithful mouths because over the same thirty years, Schafer has accomplished *nearly* as much, and somewhat more consistently, with no scholarships, much higher admissions standards, and a culture that doesn't encourage individual stars, but no national title, and only one Frozen Four appearance.

That's the short version. ::banana::

While this is mostly true, the fixation on Quinnipiac being a bad academic school is kind of strange...there are quite a few schools in the ECAC, and many more across college hockey, with very high acceptance rates and a weak national ranking (or whatever other metric you want to pick to rip on a school's academics).

IINM the only ECAC school even remotely as bad as Q in recent history was UVM.  They deserve the ridicule.

[Scersk '97]

IINM the only ECAC school even remotely as bad as Q in recent history was UVM.  They deserve the ridicule.

Yes, the SUNY Buffalo of Vermont is far better than the Hofstra of Connecticut.

[Trotsky]

IINM the only ECAC school even remotely as bad as Q in recent history was UVM.  They deserve the ridicule.

Yes, the SUNY Buffalo of Vermont is far better than the Hofstra of Connecticut.

That's hard on Hofstra.  I'd  go with the Adelphi of Connecticut.

But funny AF nonetheless.  I would purchase again.

[BMac]

Welcome!

BU is indeed a rival- they were in the ECAC (our division) for a very long time before they left for the newly-created Hockey East in the 80s.

We restarted the rivalry with a game at MSG in 2007. It was supposed to be a short-lived thing but it was so successful that we now play them every other year at MSG on the first Saturday after Thanksgiving, on odd years.

We really restarted the rivalry with home-and-home pairs, two at Walter Brown in 2001-02 that we split, and two at Lynah in 2002-03 that Cornell dominated, Jack Parker describing it afterward as "boys playing against men." I think MSG was more of a natural next step that just took a few years to put together.

Oh cool that's context I didn't have- thanks!

My knowledge of Cornell hockey is kinda of like that classic New Yorker cover "view from 9th avenue"- where anything before 2004 is Prehistory, known only from archeology and carbon dating.

Idk how to post a pic here but:
https://i.etsystatic.com/9820776/r/il/30f370/3258721815/il_570xN.3258721815_dy3n.jpg

[BMac]

Welcome!

BU is indeed a rival- they were in the ECAC (our division) for a very long time before they left for the newly-created Hockey East in the 80s.

Definitely welcome to Stereax!  

More than that, before 1980, the NCAA tournament was only made up of four teams: two Eastern, and two Western. From about 1965-1975, BU and Cornell were the most dominant and successful Eastern teams and kept butting heads in the ECAC and NCAA tournaments. The old-timers still hold and feel it. To this day, there's a Cornell cheer that ends with "Screw BU.... too."  BU has gone on to have more success as the sport has grown, while Ivies have kept old restrictions on Athletics.

Some more history! Love it, thank you.

[Scersk '97]

IINM the only ECAC school even remotely as bad as Q in recent history was UVM.  They deserve the ridicule.

Yes, the SUNY Buffalo of Vermont is far better than the Hofstra of Connecticut.

That's hard on Hofstra.  I'd  go with the Adelphi of Connecticut.

But funny AF nonetheless.  I would purchase again.

They are strikingly similar, commuter colleges that have ballooned into "universities."  Both even have middling law and med schools, although some of QU's med departments are well-respected.

Quinnipiac's like Hofstra without the brutalism.

[JasonN95]

Nice highlight reels of the games put together by NoDak. I wish that CU would do the same, making longer videos that included more of the highlights that didn't end in a goal.

Game 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55Vp8sCROwQ&ab_channel=UNDInsider

Game 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfELtnCdoq4&ab_channel=UNDInsider

[Swampy]

I wish that CU would do the same, making longer videos that included more of the highlights that didn't end in a goal.

Sounds like a great suggestion for AD Moore.

[ugarte]

I wish that CU would do the same, making longer videos that included more of the highlights that didn't end in a goal.

Sounds like a great suggestion for AD Moore.

i posted the Cornell reel from game 1 and it did include good non-goal action

[BearLover]

Nice highlight reels of the games put together by NoDak. I wish that CU would do the same, making longer videos that included more of the highlights that didn't end in a goal.

Game 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55Vp8sCROwQ&ab_channel=UNDInsider

Game 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfELtnCdoq4&ab_channel=UNDInsider

Yes, I agree. The Cornell reels are really lacking—they're 2 minutes and show only the goals and just one angle of each goal. And maybe worst of all, each clip starts right before the goal, so viewers have no idea how the play originally developed.

[abmarks]

Nice highlight reels of the games put together by NoDak. I wish that CU would do the same, making longer videos that included more of the highlights that didn't end in a goal.

Game 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55Vp8sCROwQ&ab_channel=UNDInsider

Game 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfELtnCdoq4&ab_channel=UNDInsider

Yes, I agree. The Cornell reels are really lacking—they're 2 minutes and show only the goals and just one angle of each goal. And maybe worst of all, each clip starts right before the goal, so viewers have no idea how the play originally developed.

Anyone else notice that there was a new blue line camera in use on the broadcasts?   There was a replay shown using that blue line mounted camera on a play where o'leary would have been in all alone except he was about a stride over the line when the puck reached him.

Iirc I only saw that shot used that one time.

And noticeable, if only because I didn't even notice for a few periods;  much smoother camera work, less stuttery and better centered on the action.

[BearLover]

Nice highlight reels of the games put together by NoDak. I wish that CU would do the same, making longer videos that included more of the highlights that didn't end in a goal.

Game 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55Vp8sCROwQ&ab_channel=UNDInsider

Game 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfELtnCdoq4&ab_channel=UNDInsider

Yes, I agree. The Cornell reels are really lacking—they're 2 minutes and show only the goals and just one angle of each goal. And maybe worst of all, each clip starts right before the goal, so viewers have no idea how the play originally developed.

Anyone else notice that there was a new blue line camera in use on the broadcasts?   There was a replay shown using that blue line mounted camera on a play where o'leary would have been in all alone except he was about a stride over the line when the puck reached him.

Iirc I only saw that shot used that one time.

And noticeable, if only because I didn't even notice for a few periods;  much smoother camera work, less stuttery and better centered on the action.

Yes, but I thought the picture quality was really bad. I didn't see the puck go in the net on any of the goals. I only know someone scored by the announcing/player reactions.

[abmarks]

Nice highlight reels of the games put together by NoDak. I wish that CU would do the same, making longer videos that included more of the highlights that didn't end in a goal.

Game 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55Vp8sCROwQ&ab_channel=UNDInsider

Game 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfELtnCdoq4&ab_channel=UNDInsider

Yes, I agree. The Cornell reels are really lacking—they're 2 minutes and show only the goals and just one angle of each goal. And maybe worst of all, each clip starts right before the goal, so viewers have no idea how the play originally developed.

Anyone else notice that there was a new blue line camera in use on the broadcasts?   There was a replay shown using that blue line mounted camera on a play where o'leary would have been in all alone except he was about a stride over the line when the puck reached him.

Iirc I only saw that shot used that one time.

And noticeable, if only because I didn't even notice for a few periods;  much smoother camera work, less stuttery and better centered on the action.

Yes, but I thought the picture quality was really bad. I didn't see the puck go in the net on any of the goals. I only know someone scored by the announcing/player reactions.

Was it worse than last year?   It varied night to night and camera to camera in the past because they clearly don't set the different cameras to a common white balance level.

If the camera operator sets the white balance so the scoreboard is clear, it'll be way too dim a broadcast.  And with how dim the rink is vs the brightness of that board, getting proper brightness on the ice will wash out that board.

We need some alums descended from Sylvania or Westinghouse or something to pay for a serious lighting upgrade in there.

(Lol @grady calling out the crap pa, saying something like . "Ehhh well, someday they'll have to upgrade it"