Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025

Started by Chris '03, October 06, 2024, 07:48:50 PM

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BearLover

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Quote from: BearLoverAnother '04 with big numbers in the CHL commits to Quinnipiac. Quinnipiac and Clarkson are each slated to have about six of those on their rosters next year.
Luckily all of these guys are 5 foot 9 or less or have some other issue that is making it so they have no NHL/AHL interest. Those issues will probably make them far from dominant in college but even if they do end up being outstanding, they'll probably leave as soon as they have a good year

^ ^ ^

This puts the CHL issue to bed AFAIC.  Like every other existential threat to Cornell hockey, it's a chimera.

People like to doom; the Post sells for a reason.
Come on, man. chimpfood makes reasonable points but it does not "put the CHL issue to bed." Not a single one of these kids has played a single minute of NCAA hockey yet. Nobody knows how this is going to turn out.

Also, I did not say anything about it being an existential threat to Cornell. I was merely pointing out that two of our conference rivals have loaded up on CHL players for next year. I don't know how that's going to turn out, nor does anybody else.

But given that hockey coaches are rational actors, and they've decided to recruit from the CHL rather other leagues to fill these roster spots, we can infer that these coaches believe that recruiting from the CHL gives them a better chance to win than recruiting from other leagues. Ergo, CHL players becoming NCAA eligible has improved recruit quality for these schools.

Cornell's incoming recruits look good. But now our competition has likely upgraded their recruits. The standard that we are up against has improved. (Unless the Quinnipiac and Clarkson coaching staffs have no idea what they're doing.)

ursusminor

FWIW, RPI supposedly has 20 new players for 2025-6, 12 of whom are from the portal. Of the first-year players, three played major juniors. This agrees with my best guess.

stereax

Quote from: ursusminorFWIW, RPI supposedly has 20 new players for 2025-6, 12 of whom are from the portal. Of the first-year players, three played major juniors. This agrees with my best guess.
Oh hey, Jack Gorton. I've heard tales of his stupidity before LOL.
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The Rancor

Quote from: ursusminorFWIW, RPI supposedly has 20 new players for 2025-6, 12 of whom are from the portal. Of the first-year players, three played major juniors. This agrees with my best guess.

That's bonkers!

ursusminor

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Quote from: ursusminorFWIW, RPI supposedly has 20 new players for 2025-6, 12 of whom are from the portal. Of the first-year players, three played major juniors. This agrees with my best guess.
Oh hey, Jack Gorton. I've heard tales of his stupidity before LOL.

Are you saying that he is just stupid or stupid for picking RPI? As was pointed out on the RPI thread on USCHO, he majored in advertising at BU, which may mean that a lot of his credits won't transfer. The closest RPI has is a school of Management and a Communications major in the School of History, Art, and Social Sciences.

ursusminor

Quote from: The Rancor
Quote from: ursusminorFWIW, RPI supposedly has 20 new players for 2025-6, 12 of whom are from the portal. Of the first-year players, three played major juniors. This agrees with my best guess.

That's bonkers!
Considering RPI's performance last season, it makes sense. They did lose five players to the portal whom I would have liked to see back.

ugarte

Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: ursusminorFWIW, RPI supposedly has 20 new players for 2025-6, 12 of whom are from the portal. Of the first-year players, three played major juniors. This agrees with my best guess.
Oh hey, Jack Gorton. I've heard tales of his stupidity before LOL.

Are you saying that he is just stupid or stupid for picking RPI? As was pointed out on the RPI thread on USCHO, he majored in advertising at BU, which may mean that a lot of his credits won't transfer. The closest RPI has is a school of Management and a Communications major in the School of History, Art, and Social Sciences.
sorry for the drift but... really? i have a hard time believing that RPI wouldn't give credit towards a degree for classes taken at BU. BU is not the University of Phoenix, even if nobody at RPI studies advertising under that name.

ursusminor

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: ursusminorFWIW, RPI supposedly has 20 new players for 2025-6, 12 of whom are from the portal. Of the first-year players, three played major juniors. This agrees with my best guess.
Oh hey, Jack Gorton. I've heard tales of his stupidity before LOL.

Are you saying that he is just stupid or stupid for picking RPI? As was pointed out on the RPI thread on USCHO, he majored in advertising at BU, which may mean that a lot of his credits won't transfer. The closest RPI has is a school of Management and a Communications major in the School of History, Art, and Social Sciences.
sorry for the drift but... really? i have a hard time believing that RPI wouldn't give credit towards a degree for classes taken at BU. BU is not the University of Phoenix, even if nobody at RPI studies advertising under that name.
Whatever he majors in at RPI will have certain course requirements. After two years at BU, there may not be enough slots to put the courses which he has already passed into.

stereax

Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: ursusminorFWIW, RPI supposedly has 20 new players for 2025-6, 12 of whom are from the portal. Of the first-year players, three played major juniors. This agrees with my best guess.
Oh hey, Jack Gorton. I've heard tales of his stupidity before LOL.

Are you saying that he is just stupid or stupid for picking RPI? As was pointed out on the RPI thread on USCHO, he majored in advertising at BU, which may mean that a lot of his credits won't transfer. The closest RPI has is a school of Management and a Communications major in the School of History, Art, and Social Sciences.
Considering I have heard from BU Friend that Gorton was yelled at by the team captain (Lachance) that a signature was not just "writing out his full name" at the team signing event... I'm gonna say just stupid.
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Iceberg

Speaking of BU, Jack Parker gets inducted into the Hockey HOF. Well deserved.

stereax

Quote from: IcebergSpeaking of BU, Jack Parker gets inducted into the Hockey HOF. Well deserved.
Kudos to him.
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chimpfood

Mike McMahon reports that NHL draft rights will expire at 22 for all players now.

https://x.com/MikeMcMahonCHN/status/1937997535873777879?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

I'm curious how this will affect us and our tendency to bring in older players.

stereax

Quote from: chimpfoodMike McMahon reports that NHL draft rights will expire at 22 for all players now.

https://x.com/MikeMcMahonCHN/status/1937997535873777879?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

I'm curious how this will affect us and our tendency to bring in older players.
Draft rights. I don't think this hits us as hard as some other schools, given we don't have high level drafted players that often, but there's obviously going to be pressure as players turn 22 to sign if they are drafted...
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BearLover

Quote from: chimpfoodMike McMahon reports that NHL draft rights will expire at 22 for all players now.

https://x.com/MikeMcMahonCHN/status/1937997535873777879?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

I'm curious how this will affect us and our tendency to bring in older players.
What a stupid rule, and clearly worse than the old one, which was (correct me if I'm wrong) that NHL teams hold a drafted player's rights for four years *from their freshman year of college.* Now, if you're drafted at 18 like most players, you basically can't play juniors or else you lose a year of college. If you're 19 or 20, you can't play 4 years of college at all if you sign with the team that drafted you.

This change won't affect the truly elite players who were leaving college within a year or two anyway. It will instead impact the good drafted players who typically would sign pro their junior or senior year.

This change might create perverse incentives. For example, drafted players should skip/leave junior hockey and go straight to college no matter how ready they are (which in turn severely weakens the USHL and other junior leagues). And drafted overagers are not as worth recruiting because (if they're good enough for the NHL) they will only stay 2 or 3 years. And from a fan perspective, it leaves us rooting *against* our recruits being taken in the NHL draft.

upprdeck

So kids are drafted hoping they will be good.. If they do play well the team has to sign them or they go back into the pool?  How is that a bad thing?  if you are  marginal player that gets drafted teams are either not signing you or lowering the offer.. If the team matters to you then thats an issue but again thats just luck anyway.