Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025

Started by Chris '03, October 06, 2024, 07:48:50 PM

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abmarks

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: CU2007
Quote from: TrotskyNever change, Colgate.

(I had no idea about CC.  Fuck them.)

A more detailed (and prettier) treatment.

A far, far more detailed (less pretty) analysis of Cornell.  (tldr: we suck, but not compared to the other Ivies.)

The scatter plot and trending charts are most interesting.  I would have expected us (and the Ivies in general) to have become less scumbag-ridden in the last 40 years but nope -- flatlining all the way.  Tutoring and privilege in high school still replicates class. Whodathunk?

Fun fact: the top 4 universities for "Median student income at age 34" are pharmacy schools. MIT is 5th.

You really hate rich people huh? Just because someone is wealthy doesn't mean they're the scum of the earth

Rich people are the same as everybody else.  Which is why the top 1% should make up 1% of the class, and the top 10% should make up 10%.

Otherwise it really is a scam to keep the failsons in the dough, like all the proles think.  Cuz I know these folks and wealth and intelligence sure as shit aint correlated.

I want Cornell to be the exception it claims to be.  That would be truly worthy of pride.

LOL, I was thinking right before I got to Trotskys reply that it's not the rich he hates, but the undeserving spawn.

Trotsky, go.read the upshot report you quoted and pull.up Cornell and hit the compare to Ivies option.  You'll find we are top or second ranked iirc on all the significant upward mobility stats vs. the rest of Ivy (like percent of students moving from bottom 20% of income scale when entering, to top 20% of scale when measuring down the road at some point.)

Trotsky

Quotevs. the rest of Ivy

This is the operative word.  Right now we are the smartest kid in the Upper Class Twit of the Year contest.  I'd love it if within my grandchild's lifetime we were measuring ourselves against someone other than Special Olympians.

If you're in the same conversation as Dartmouth re: academic integrity, you're doing something very very wrong.

stereax

Hey, fun stat:

Castagna's '24 season leads all U19 college skaters (since '23) in even-strength GF%. Better than the likes of Cooley, Fantilli, Leonard, Perreault, Smith, Celebrini.
Law '27, Section C denizen, liveblogging from Lynah!

abmarks

Quote from: Trotsky
Quotevs. the rest of Ivy

This is the operative word.  Right now we are the smartest kid in the Upper Class Twit of the Year contest.  I'd love it if within my grandchild's lifetime we were measuring ourselves against someone other than Special Olympians.

If you're in the same conversation as Dartmouth re: academic integrity, you're doing something very very wrong.

There are other comparisons available, I just didn't try them.   You should see how we stack up against the world and not just ivy

Trotsky

Quote from: abmarks
Quote from: Trotsky
Quotevs. the rest of Ivy

This is the operative word.  Right now we are the smartest kid in the Upper Class Twit of the Year contest.  I'd love it if within my grandchild's lifetime we were measuring ourselves against someone other than Special Olympians.

If you're in the same conversation as Dartmouth re: academic integrity, you're doing something very very wrong.

There are other comparisons available, I just didn't try them.   You should see how we stack up against the world and not just ivy
The detailed link above does just that.  Hence the summary: we suck, just not as bad as the other Ivies.

Some words from of all places the Cambridge MBA Degree Mill.  Let's continue on the Double Secret Branch if you wish.

BearLover

Yet another top CHL player commits to Clarkson for next season. This time it is Matthew Mayich, 6th round draft pick, defenseman who had 7-35-42 in 66 games in the OHL. He is already 20 so I assume he is looking to only be at Clarkson for a couple of years before bolting for the pros. Clarkson and Quinnipiac continue benefiting from CHL age-out players way more than the rest of the ECAC. It seems similar to how Quinnipiac loaded up on grad transfers over the last few years, which is the only reason they won a national title.

Would be nice to see Cornell get a single one of these CHL age-out players to plug some holes the next year or two, but so far it's been Clarkson 6, Quinnipiac 5, Cornell 0.

George64

Quote from: BearLoverWould be nice to see Cornell get a single one of these CHL age-out players to plug some holes the next year or two, but so far it's been Clarkson 6, Quinnipiac 5, Cornell 0.

US News rankings, for what they're worth:

Cornell 11 in National Universities (tie)
Clarkson 152 in National Universities (tie)
Quinnipiac 179 in National Universities (tie)

Cornell 10 in Engineering Programs (doctorate)
Clarkson 113 in Engineering Programs (doctorate)
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chimpfood

College hockey apparently shifting from RPI to NPI, looks to be very beneficial to us but waiting to see what tweaks they make

BearLover

Quote from: chimpfoodCollege hockey apparently shifting from RPI to NPI, looks to be very beneficial to us but waiting to see what tweaks they make
What is the difference from RPI and why does it benefit us?

chimpfood

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: chimpfoodCollege hockey apparently shifting from RPI to NPI, looks to be very beneficial to us but waiting to see what tweaks they make
What is the difference from RPI and why does it benefit us?
I haven't put in the time to understand it fully yet (and I won't bother until they announce exactly what tweaks and everything they are making to it) but this article explains the difference between NPI and RPI.
https://diiihockeynews.com/breaking-down-the-npi/
Someone on Reddit posted what the NPI would have looked like this year and it clearly seems more favorable to weaker schedules than the RPI. Clarkson and us would have been one spot higher in the NPI, quinnipiac would have jumped three spots, Bentley would have been 17th, etc.

BearLover

Another '04 with big numbers in the CHL commits to Quinnipiac. Quinnipiac and Clarkson are each slated to have about six of those on their rosters next year.

chimpfood

Quote from: BearLoverAnother '04 with big numbers in the CHL commits to Quinnipiac. Quinnipiac and Clarkson are each slated to have about six of those on their rosters next year.
Luckily all of these guys are 5 foot 9 or less or have some other issue that is making it so they have no NHL/AHL interest. Those issues will probably make them far from dominant in college but even if they do end up being outstanding, they'll probably leave as soon as they have a good year

Trotsky

If Clarkson can get them, we can get them.

Q has ceased even the pretension of being a university so that's a different story.  No desire to follow that lead, I for one welcome their inevitable jump to the Big Ten.

Trotsky

Quote from: chimpfood
Quote from: BearLoverAnother '04 with big numbers in the CHL commits to Quinnipiac. Quinnipiac and Clarkson are each slated to have about six of those on their rosters next year.
Luckily all of these guys are 5 foot 9 or less or have some other issue that is making it so they have no NHL/AHL interest. Those issues will probably make them far from dominant in college but even if they do end up being outstanding, they'll probably leave as soon as they have a good year

^ ^ ^

This puts the CHL issue to bed AFAIC.  Like every other existential threat to Cornell hockey, it's a chimera.

People like to doom; the Post sells for a reason.

BearLover

Quote from: TrotskyIf Clarkson can get them, we can get them.

Q has ceased even the pretension of being a university so that's a different story.  No desire to follow that lead, I for one welcome their inevitable jump to the Big Ten.

Quinnipiac acceptance rate: 84%
Clarkson acceptance rate: 78%
Cornell acceptance rate: 7%

I really do not understand the view held by many on this forum that Quinnipiac is a uniquely unserious academic school. While Quinnipiac is probably an unserious academic school, this is NOT unique. It seems extremely unlikely that any of the kids who get into Quinnipiac for hockey wouldn't also get into Clarkson, or dozens of other D-1 hockey programs.