Cornell lacrosse 2025

Started by billhoward, August 02, 2024, 10:39:13 AM

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upprdeck

Great to see so many kids get some recognition.  Scary when you see so many are SRs

big29red

The recruiting has not ben stellar for the '26 class, when compared to our Ivy brethren.  I am assuming it's a combination of NIL (financial aid packages), sub par facilities, and the type of kids CB wants in terms of culture and team first attitude. However, I'm quite concerned going forward without having a couple of "5*" caliber kids in the class, while losing so much talent in the next 2 years. Hopefully, the new indoor facility will help! I've ben harping on this in the other fanlax forum, but have been told repeatedly, to not be concerned- we have enough talent. I'm not so sure about that, even Dartmouth has out recruited us in the '26 class!

As for Kelleher, it's not just the scoring, but the attention he attracts as soon as he steps on the field. Everyone else gets open space, and the team flourishes!

Swampy

Quote from: big29redAs for Kelleher, it's not just the scoring, but the attention he attracts as soon as he steps on the field. Everyone else gets open space, and the team flourishes!

Well, in the Dartmouth game, CJ didn't get much open space, and Dartmouth made the game close.

billhoward

All-Ivy mentions first-second-HM: Cornell 11, Princeton 9. Cornell has attackman, midfield, defender  of the year, no FOGO of the year named but Cascadden is first team FOGO.

Unanimous All-Ivy: Kirst, D JaysonSinger. as well as A Coulter Mackesy and (Princeton). Princeton attackman Peter Buonnano was unanimous rookie of the year but did not make All-Ivy first/second/HM.

BearLover

Quote from: big29redI've ben harping on this in the other fanlax forum, but have been told repeatedly, to not be concerned- we have enough talent. I'm not so sure about that, even Dartmouth has out recruited us in the '26 class!
The "Cornell coaching staff gets more out of less" taking point is cope. Yes, maybe we can still win with a bunch of 3* recruits more than another school could, but we'd clearly be better off with a bunch of 5* players like Kirst and Teat.

big29red

Yes- quite true. We lack size and speed in the midfield (both Offensive and Defensive Middies), that will come back to bite us in the future. Princeton and Harvard's middies are bigger and faster on both sides of the field, they are young and also have recruited quite well in the next few upcoming classes, as has Dartmouth and Brown. Once the current senior class leaves, we do not have much size backing them up on Attack and in the Midfield. The game has changed- you need big, athletic middies to get up and down the field who possess hard accurate shots. Looking at our roster, we don't have a lot of that, other than AJ, who is out this year w/ an ACL- don't know what he'll be able to do next year. We really need to step up the '27 recruiting!

ugarte

i don't love a one year dip but i'm also not going to overthink a one year dip as we are about to start the postseason with the top-ranked team in the country.

should i be less surprised that knust wasn't even second-team?

BearLover

Quote from: ugartei don't love a one year dip but i'm also not going to overthink a one year dip as we are about to start the postseason with the top-ranked team in the country.

should i be less surprised that knust wasn't even second-team?
I don't have the stats in front of me but it could be a function of other goalies having more saves due to their teams possessing the ball less than Cornell does. I.e. other teams don't win as many faceoffs or force as many turnovers, so they rely on their goalie more.

djk26

Quote from: ugartei don't love a one year dip but i'm also not going to overthink a one year dip as we are about to start the postseason with the top-ranked team in the country.

should i be less surprised that knust wasn't even second-team?

I'm in agreeance with this.  (I like that word "agreeance"--it's archaic and hardly ever used--I first heard it on a TV show about 20 years ago when I think the person using it meant to say "agreement.")

Anyway, there is a time to worry about 2026.  That time is AFTER the 2025 NCAA tournament.
David Klesh ILR '02

George64

Quote from: djk26I'm in agreeance with this.  (I like that word "agreeance"--it's archaic and hardly ever used--I first heard it on a TV show about 20 years ago when I think the person using it meant to say "agreement.")

Agreement or agreeance? Did you throw away your Strunk and White, The Elements of Style, that you bought for freshman English?  It advocated using the active voice, as it is usually more direct and vigorous than the passive.

djk26

Quote from: George64
Quote from: djk26I'm in agreeance with this.  (I like that word "agreeance"--it's archaic and hardly ever used--I first heard it on a TV show about 20 years ago when I think the person using it meant to say "agreement.")

Agreement or agreeance? Did you throw away your Strunk and White, The Elements of Style, that you bought for freshman English?  It advocated using the active voice, as it is usually more direct and vigorous than the passive.

I was joking about "agreeance"--the word is silly. ::burnout::
David Klesh ILR '02

George64

Quote from: djk26
Quote from: George64
Quote from: djk26I'm in agreeance with this.  (I like that word "agreeance"--it's archaic and hardly ever used--I first heard it on a TV show about 20 years ago when I think the person using it meant to say "agreement.")

Agreement or agreeance? Did you throw away your Strunk and White, The Elements of Style, that you bought for freshman English?  It advocated using the active voice, as it is usually more direct and vigorous than the passive.

I was joking about "agreeance"--the word is silly. ::burnout::

I'm in agreement! I totally agree!
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Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: George64
Quote from: djk26
Quote from: George64
Quote from: djk26I'm in agreeance with this.  (I like that word "agreeance"--it's archaic and hardly ever used--I first heard it on a TV show about 20 years ago when I think the person using it meant to say "agreement.")

Agreement or agreeance? Did you throw away your Strunk and White, The Elements of Style, that you bought for freshman English?  It advocated using the active voice, as it is usually more direct and vigorous than the passive.

I was joking about "agreeance"--the word is silly. ::burnout::

I'm in agreement! I totally agree!
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And I concur.

CU77

Quote from: ugarteshould i be less surprised that knust wasn't even second-team?

You shouldn't be surprised at all.

NCAA saves percentage statistics:

3. Ryan Croddick, Princeton, 60.4%
7. Mason Morel, Dartmouth, 58.3%
19. Connor Foley, Brown, 55.4%
22. Wyatt Knust, Cornell, 54.6%
33. Emmet Carroll, Penn, 52.8%

https://www.ncaa.com/stats/lacrosse-men/d1/current/individual/224

Foley is the player with a legit complaint ... ::flipa::

billhoward

Suppose we have an off year next year but this year we excel in the playoffs, maybe even win it all. We will likely have good to excellent teams in 2026 and 2027 even if recruiting isn't as good as the previous four years. I've been thinking about Ivy lacrosse and ECAC hockey teams that have done well, win the NCAA title or least make finals weekend. Only 4 of 77 D1 lacrosse teams get that far. Then things kind of slip. Yale and Union won hockey titles in 2013 and 2014 then kind of slipped. The current Yale and Brown teams are shadows of the lacrosse champion and final weekend teams. Okay, Q has kept up after winning the hockey title. In lacrosse, Princeton is the other Ivy team that doesn't have long stretches of down years.