Harvard @ Cornell Saturday

[David Harding]

The going on to the ice after winning in the quarters went away sometime around 2008. We went on the ice routinely when we won quarters from the late 90's to mid-2000s. It was a really cool thing to do and the players seemed to genuinely enjoy it. Heck, it was how I got Iggulden to sign my home jersey (well to be fair, I had my girlfriend wear the jersey and ask him to sign it...but jersey and now wife are still going strong almost 20 years later!) Others would bring jerseys, programs, and cameras to have players sign and/or take pictures.  It is a shame it went away.

As for the game, it was one of the best Harvard x Cornell games in recent memory. The team has been trending in the right direction the last few weeks and the play of the freshman has been really impressive. The student section clearly needs to work on some new cheers and some old ones need to make a come back. I dislike the profanity and find it completely unoriginal. That seems to be a relatively recent development over the last few years as I don't remember it being a thing a few years ago.  But it led to my oldest daughter putting her hands over my youngest's ears every few minutes, which humored those around us in O.

Here's to hoping we can figure out the yeti that mans the Dartmouth goal!

The profanity has going on for a while.  http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,479,730#msg-730

[Robb]

I can tell you that ~15 years ago when I was a student, there was no such entry onto the ice after games and there was virtually no opportunity to interact with the players unless you were classmates, working with the team in a media capacity, or socially acquainted.

During my undergrad days (a few years before yours), there was an annual "Skate with the Big Red" event where students (and maybe staff?) could show up and have essentially a "free skate" session with members of the men's and women's teams. It was a lot of fun, but it clearly didn't continue much longer than that.

EDIT: I guess it's still a thing: https://www.cornellhockeyassociation.com/event/skate-with-the-big-red/

I was at a regular public free skate at Lynah when I was an undergrad, just shuffling around the ice like the southern boy I grew up as.  One time when I managed to look up from my skates, there was some sort of creature just flowing over the ice.  He was only doing 3 mph, like the crowd, but he moved, just, differently.  Like the differnece between a swimming human and a swimming dolphin.  Even at that speed, doing absolutely nothing, his grace just drew the eye.  Turns out it was Mike Sancimino '96.  I still have no idea what he was doing at that public skate, but being out there with him live sure gave me a greater appreciation for the absolute skill those guys have on the ice.

[RichH]

I can tell you that ~15 years ago when I was a student, there was no such entry onto the ice after games and there was virtually no opportunity to interact with the players unless you were classmates, working with the team in a media capacity, or socially acquainted.

During my undergrad days (a few years before yours), there was an annual "Skate with the Big Red" event where students (and maybe staff?) could show up and have essentially a "free skate" session with members of the men's and women's teams. It was a lot of fun, but it clearly didn't continue much longer than that.

I don't know what's taking them so long to bring it back. Bring back the ice-storming tradition too. Why are they being so stupid when people can be making great memories for almost free. What kind of morons are running this show?

The seems to be some interest in suppressing storming the court after basketball games since the Duke player was injured a few weeks ago.  It's hard for me to imagine managers worried about liability condoning it at hockey games.    https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39680623/court-storming-ban-college-basketball-injuries-march-madness-kyle-filipowski-caitlin-clark

yeah except nobody was storming - they literally had an orderly exit through the zamboni doors and everyone just commiserated and had fun.

bring in back ... and 15 years? bollocks I say. time can't fly that fast. (checks notes: it does)

All that. The first "storming" of the ice that happened in my era was the Nov. 11, 1995 game that broke the Harvard streak. (OK, there were only a few of us that went over the glass, but it was still pretty great & smelly), and the 1996 QF win vs. Colgate was such a party atmosphere and represented such a return of the program, we went over the glass again.  I recall, perhaps wrongly, the players helping some folks over. The next couple years it kept happening until they replaced the low glass with metal supports with the high seamless glass, as Arthur mentioned. By then, "tradition" gave the expectation of the student section joining, so an orderly line to the open the Zamboni doors followed, supported by the rink staff. Players certainly waved A & B towards the ice.  I couldn't tell you the last year of that.

[redice]

I can tell you that ~15 years ago when I was a student, there was no such entry onto the ice after games and there was virtually no opportunity to interact with the players unless you were classmates, working with the team in a media capacity, or socially acquainted.

During my undergrad days (a few years before yours), there was an annual "Skate with the Big Red" event where students (and maybe staff?) could show up and have essentially a "free skate" session with members of the men's and women's teams. It was a lot of fun, but it clearly didn't continue much longer than that.

I don't know what's taking them so long to bring it back. Bring back the ice-storming tradition too. Why are they being so stupid when people can be making great memories for almost free. What kind of morons are running this show?

The seems to be some interest in suppressing storming the court after basketball games since the Duke player was injured a few weeks ago.  It's hard for me to imagine managers worried about liability condoning it at hockey games.    https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39680623/court-storming-ban-college-basketball-injuries-march-madness-kyle-filipowski-caitlin-clark

yeah except nobody was storming - they literally had an orderly exit through the zamboni doors and everyone just commiserated and had fun.

bring in back ... and 15 years? bollocks I say. time can't fly that fast. (checks notes: it does)

All that. The first "storming" of the ice that happened in my era was the Nov. 11, 1995 game that broke the Harvard streak. (OK, there were only a few of us that went over the glass, but it was still pretty great & smelly), and the 1996 QF win vs. Colgate was such a party atmosphere and represented such a return of the program, we went over the glass again.  I recall, perhaps wrongly, the players helping some folks over. The next couple years it kept happening until they replaced the low glass with metal supports with the high seamless glass, as Arthur mentioned. By then, "tradition" gave the expectation of the student section joining, so an orderly line to the open the Zamboni doors followed, supported by the rink staff. Players certainly waved A & B towards the ice.  I couldn't tell you the last year of that.

Not completely true.    I recall specifically that the "storming" happened after the Randy Wilson game ON March 6, 1979. I cannot recall if that was the first one.

[Trotsky]

I can tell you that ~15 years ago when I was a student, there was no such entry onto the ice after games and there was virtually no opportunity to interact with the players unless you were classmates, working with the team in a media capacity, or socially acquainted.

During my undergrad days (a few years before yours), there was an annual "Skate with the Big Red" event where students (and maybe staff?) could show up and have essentially a "free skate" session with members of the men's and women's teams. It was a lot of fun, but it clearly didn't continue much longer than that.

I don't know what's taking them so long to bring it back. Bring back the ice-storming tradition too. Why are they being so stupid when people can be making great memories for almost free. What kind of morons are running this show?

The seems to be some interest in suppressing storming the court after basketball games since the Duke player was injured a few weeks ago.  It's hard for me to imagine managers worried about liability condoning it at hockey games.    https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39680623/court-storming-ban-college-basketball-injuries-march-madness-kyle-filipowski-caitlin-clark

yeah except nobody was storming - they literally had an orderly exit through the zamboni doors and everyone just commiserated and had fun.

bring in back ... and 15 years? bollocks I say. time can't fly that fast. (checks notes: it does)

All that. The first "storming" of the ice that happened in my era was the Nov. 11, 1995 game that broke the Harvard streak. (OK, there were only a few of us that went over the glass, but it was still pretty great & smelly), and the 1996 QF win vs. Colgate was such a party atmosphere and represented such a return of the program, we went over the glass again.  I recall, perhaps wrongly, the players helping some folks over. The next couple years it kept happening until they replaced the low glass with metal supports with the high seamless glass, as Arthur mentioned. By then, "tradition" gave the expectation of the student section joining, so an orderly line to the open the Zamboni doors followed, supported by the rink staff. Players certainly waved A & B towards the ice.  I couldn't tell you the last year of that.

Not completely true.    I recall specifically that the "storming" happened after the Randy Wilson game ON March 6, 1979. I cannot recall if that was the first one.

He said it was the first of his era, not the first.  My first storming came in 1985 when we won the QF and got back to Boston after a 3-year absence which had spanned my entire undergrad, and we most definitely went over the short glass.  It was not that difficult, taller fans were helping shorter ones, etc.  We then did it every home QF win until at least the late 90s, at which point I had stopped going to QFs and don't know.

I just assumed the fans had always done it going all the way back to the beginnings of the modern program.  It was very special being with your friends on the ice, and the players would stay and hug family and GFs and just random strangers.  Also the players, already taller than most of us, just towered over us in their skates, so it was "Why, man, he doth bestride the narrow world / Like a Colossus, and we petty men / Walk under his huge legs and peep about."  As young students it was almost like returning to childhood and being with an older brother; it was just a good, solid, family feeling, and probably a big reason I became welded to this maddening, heart-breaking team.

[BMac]

Since everyone is speculating: the high glass was installed before the 2005-06 season.

So the first clarkson qf series, ending in Topher Scott's overtime goal (and jumping about a meter), was the last climb-the-glass moment.

The following year's clarkson qf series, which had the longest game in Lynah history to date, ended in Moulson's OT goal and we went through the Zamboni doors.

[jtwcornell91]

IIRC one of the two ties we got during The Troubles (0-10-2) would have been a win but the eejits cost us a penalty and Harvard scored the tying goal on powerplay.

The one I can still remember was '95, the last one of that streak, when somebody heaved a fish onto the ice at the start of the second period.  Minor was called and announced, and then Arthur read the no-throwing-things announcement for the third time that night, adding in his best I'm-surrounded-by-assholes voice, "as has just been demonstrated, the referees WILL call a penalty." Harvard scored on the PP.  Not the game-winner, but their first goal in a game the Big Red would lose 2-1.

I wasn't even there, and I remember that one: https://amurgsval.org/squishy/fish.1.4.html

[jtwcornell91]

What the fuck. They kicked me out cuz for starting Garry glitter due to "swears".. in my last Cornell hockey game... I'm literally crying....-

That's ridiculous!

I'm guessing the band didn't play it because they somehow thought Schafer didn't want them to? I really don't think that was his intention.

It's probably a few years before your time, Dunc, but for a number of years the ushers would go down to the glass during "Gary Glitter" looking up into the sections for people saying "F 'em up" instead of "Rough 'em up", and then try to throw those people out. But that hasn't been the practice for a while now.

I'm seriously shocked and appalled that you got thrown out for starting a song the pep band has been regularly playing because tonight they chose not to play it.

I heard third hand that ECAC commissioner directed the band not to play it.

Does the band not playing Gary Glitter mean they can go back to playing "Gonna Fly Now" at the start of the third period, or has that passed out of institutional memory?

For that matter, did they manage to play "Love Story" this weekend?  IIRC that got cut off by quick returns from intermission lately.

[Chris '03]

Since everyone is speculating: the high glass was installed before the 2005-06 season.

So the first clarkson qf series, ending in Topher Scott's overtime goal (and jumping about a meter), was the last climb-the-glass moment.

The following year's clarkson qf series, which had the longest game in Lynah history to date, ended in Moulson's OT goal and we went through the Zamboni doors.

Seamless glass went in for 2001 season I'm pretty sure. The 2000 Harvard quintafinal was definitely an over the glass event. In 2001 I think some people went over the seamless but the zamboni doors got opened. In 2002 it was more or less the same. And I think by 2003 it was all zamboni door.

Thread here more or less corroborates: http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,3617,3649#msg-3649

[ACM]

I can tell you that ~15 years ago when I was a student, there was no such entry onto the ice after games and there was virtually no opportunity to interact with the players unless you were classmates, working with the team in a media capacity, or socially acquainted.

During my undergrad days (a few years before yours), there was an annual "Skate with the Big Red" event where students (and maybe staff?) could show up and have essentially a "free skate" session with members of the men's and women's teams. It was a lot of fun, but it clearly didn't continue much longer than that.

I don't know what's taking them so long to bring it back. Bring back the ice-storming tradition too. Why are they being so stupid when people can be making great memories for almost free. What kind of morons are running this show?

The seems to be some interest in suppressing storming the court after basketball games since the Duke player was injured a few weeks ago.  It's hard for me to imagine managers worried about liability condoning it at hockey games.    https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39680623/court-storming-ban-college-basketball-injuries-march-madness-kyle-filipowski-caitlin-clark

yeah except nobody was storming - they literally had an orderly exit through the zamboni doors and everyone just commiserated and had fun.

bring in back ... and 15 years? bollocks I say. time can't fly that fast. (checks notes: it does)

All that. The first "storming" of the ice that happened in my era was the Nov. 11, 1995 game that broke the Harvard streak. (OK, there were only a few of us that went over the glass, but it was still pretty great & smelly), and the 1996 QF win vs. Colgate was such a party atmosphere and represented such a return of the program, we went over the glass again.  I recall, perhaps wrongly, the players helping some folks over. The next couple years it kept happening until they replaced the low glass with metal supports with the high seamless glass, as Arthur mentioned. By then, "tradition" gave the expectation of the student section joining, so an orderly line to the open the Zamboni doors followed, supported by the rink staff. Players certainly waved A & B towards the ice.  I couldn't tell you the last year of that.

Not completely true.    I recall specifically that the "storming" happened after the Randy Wilson game ON March 6, 1979. I cannot recall if that was the first one.

He said it was the first of his era, not the first.  My first storming came in 1985 when we won the QF and got back to Boston after a 3-year absence which had spanned my entire undergrad, and we most definitely went over the short glass.  It was not that difficult, taller fans were helping shorter ones, etc.  We then did it every home QF win until at least the late 90s, at which point I had stopped going to QFs and don't know.

I just assumed the fans had always done it going all the way back to the beginnings of the modern program.  It was very special being with your friends on the ice, and the players would stay and hug family and GFs and just random strangers.  Also the players, already taller than most of us, just towered over us in their skates, so it was "Why, man, he doth bestride the narrow world / Like a Colossus, and we petty men / Walk under his huge legs and peep about."  As young students it was almost like returning to childhood and being with an older brother; it was just a good, solid, family feeling, and probably a big reason I became welded to this maddening, heart-breaking team.

First documented instance of fans storming the ice after a game was February 3, 1962, when Laing Kennedy made 48 saves as Cornell beat Harvard 2-1. See pp. 33-41 in "Forever Faithful", or p. 243 in Bob Kane's "Good Sports".

[Al DeFlorio]

I can tell you that ~15 years ago when I was a student, there was no such entry onto the ice after games and there was virtually no opportunity to interact with the players unless you were classmates, working with the team in a media capacity, or socially acquainted.

During my undergrad days (a few years before yours), there was an annual "Skate with the Big Red" event where students (and maybe staff?) could show up and have essentially a "free skate" session with members of the men's and women's teams. It was a lot of fun, but it clearly didn't continue much longer than that.

I don't know what's taking them so long to bring it back. Bring back the ice-storming tradition too. Why are they being so stupid when people can be making great memories for almost free. What kind of morons are running this show?

The seems to be some interest in suppressing storming the court after basketball games since the Duke player was injured a few weeks ago.  It's hard for me to imagine managers worried about liability condoning it at hockey games.    https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39680623/court-storming-ban-college-basketball-injuries-march-madness-kyle-filipowski-caitlin-clark

yeah except nobody was storming - they literally had an orderly exit through the zamboni doors and everyone just commiserated and had fun.

bring in back ... and 15 years? bollocks I say. time can't fly that fast. (checks notes: it does)

All that. The first "storming" of the ice that happened in my era was the Nov. 11, 1995 game that broke the Harvard streak. (OK, there were only a few of us that went over the glass, but it was still pretty great & smelly), and the 1996 QF win vs. Colgate was such a party atmosphere and represented such a return of the program, we went over the glass again.  I recall, perhaps wrongly, the players helping some folks over. The next couple years it kept happening until they replaced the low glass with metal supports with the high seamless glass, as Arthur mentioned. By then, "tradition" gave the expectation of the student section joining, so an orderly line to the open the Zamboni doors followed, supported by the rink staff. Players certainly waved A & B towards the ice.  I couldn't tell you the last year of that.

Not completely true.    I recall specifically that the "storming" happened after the Randy Wilson game ON March 6, 1979. I cannot recall if that was the first one.

He said it was the first of his era, not the first.  My first storming came in 1985 when we won the QF and got back to Boston after a 3-year absence which had spanned my entire undergrad, and we most definitely went over the short glass.  It was not that difficult, taller fans were helping shorter ones, etc.  We then did it every home QF win until at least the late 90s, at which point I had stopped going to QFs and don't know.

I just assumed the fans had always done it going all the way back to the beginnings of the modern program.  It was very special being with your friends on the ice, and the players would stay and hug family and GFs and just random strangers.  Also the players, already taller than most of us, just towered over us in their skates, so it was "Why, man, he doth bestride the narrow world / Like a Colossus, and we petty men / Walk under his huge legs and peep about."  As young students it was almost like returning to childhood and being with an older brother; it was just a good, solid, family feeling, and probably a big reason I became welded to this maddening, heart-breaking team.

First documented instance of fans storming the ice after a game was February 3, 1962, when Laing Kennedy made 48 saves as Cornell beat Harvard 2-1. See pp. 33-41 in "Forever Faithful", or p. 243 in Bob Kane's "Good Sports".

Eyewitness here.

[Give My Regards]

I'm on a zoom with the people I work with and one of them went to his first-ever Cornell hockey game Saturday night with his wife and two kids, both of whom are less than two years old.  His attitude about the cussing was, "well they're going to hear it anyway at some point, what's the difference?  We're already seeing guys beat each other up on the ice."  He was surprised at Coach Schafer's announcement, as he said it didn't seem to be all that bad.

[Dafatone]

Constant f-bombs aren't, like, innovative. But I have trouble worrying about them in 2024, and the continued effort to censor our crowds strikes me as weird.

[upprdeck]

While I agree it's not the best use of language. I don't know that censoring a college group from occasional yelling in a cheer is a great use of resource time.

The young kids will hear it about 100x during a game from many other sources.

[ugarte]

I can tell you that ~15 years ago when I was a student, there was no such entry onto the ice after games and there was virtually no opportunity to interact with the players unless you were classmates, working with the team in a media capacity, or socially acquainted.

During my undergrad days (a few years before yours), there was an annual "Skate with the Big Red" event where students (and maybe staff?) could show up and have essentially a "free skate" session with members of the men's and women's teams. It was a lot of fun, but it clearly didn't continue much longer than that.

I don't know what's taking them so long to bring it back. Bring back the ice-storming tradition too. Why are they being so stupid when people can be making great memories for almost free. What kind of morons are running this show?

The seems to be some interest in suppressing storming the court after basketball games since the Duke player was injured a few weeks ago.  It's hard for me to imagine managers worried about liability condoning it at hockey games.    https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39680623/court-storming-ban-college-basketball-injuries-march-madness-kyle-filipowski-caitlin-clark

yeah except nobody was storming - they literally had an orderly exit through the zamboni doors and everyone just commiserated and had fun.

bring in back ... and 15 years? bollocks I say. time can't fly that fast. (checks notes: it does)

All that. The first "storming" of the ice that happened in my era was the Nov. 11, 1995 game that broke the Harvard streak. (OK, there were only a few of us that went over the glass, but it was still pretty great & smelly), and the 1996 QF win vs. Colgate was such a party atmosphere and represented such a return of the program, we went over the glass again.  I recall, perhaps wrongly, the players helping some folks over. The next couple years it kept happening until they replaced the low glass with metal supports with the high seamless glass, as Arthur mentioned. By then, "tradition" gave the expectation of the student section joining, so an orderly line to the open the Zamboni doors followed, supported by the rink staff. Players certainly waved A & B towards the ice.  I couldn't tell you the last year of that.

I remember going over the glass from Section A after the QF sweep of Harvard in 1990. I had transferred in and bought the second half of a season ticket package from someone in my dorm who bought them at the beginning of the season because of peer pressure but was happy to offload them by January. My high school pal and his friends were all on the glass in G, below the netting and i remember running (carefully) over to them to bang the glass back from the other side.