Recruits 2024 and Beyond

Started by scoop85, December 19, 2023, 01:17:57 PM

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marty

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Quote from: David HardingMight as well post it here.   Ithaca Voice picks up press release announcing that Ithaca is going to share a USPHL team, The Elmira Impact, with Elmira.  They call it a semi-pro team, but later emphasize that the players don't get paid so they can retain their amateur status.  Ithaca games will be at The Rink in Lansing.

The quote about amateur status actually says something about to become anachronistic:
Quote from: Ithaca VoicePlayers in the USPHL are not compensated, though Kolpien said they are basically working under a full-time hockey schedule. In part, Kolpien said this is because players would lose their amateur eligibility if they accepted a players' salary, which would prevent them from playing in any NCAA program after their time with the Impact. [emphasis added]

While I've been following discussions about the NC$$ proposing to start paying college athletes salaries, I haven't seen this aspect of it discussed. If the NC$$ no longer refrains from paying its "student" athletes to maintain the amateur facade, then what about programs that feed the NCAA? Besides high school & prep sports, there's Pop Warner for football, AAU for basketball, USHL/BCHL/ ... USPHL for hockey, etc.

How about the level above what used to be Junior B from Canada? And for good measure, why couldn't someone play in the AHL for a year or two and then matriculate at Q for Pecknold's "boys?
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

BearLover

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Quote from: TrotskyThe rubber meets the road in the NHL draft.

Taking the round, to try to compensate for the larger pool of players by relating it to the larger number of teams:


Rd 1 (2) Pokulok, Nash
Rd 2 (8) Nieuwendyk, Manderville, Ratushny, Hughes, Belzile, Pelletier, LeNeveu, Sawada
Rd 3 (10) Dryden, Lowe, O'Byrne, Hynes, Starrett, Cairns, Stienburg, Ertel, Fegaras, Castagna

Morgan Barron?
Sixth round pick.

Swampy

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Quote from: marty
Quote from: TrotskyThe rubber meets the road in the NHL draft.

Taking the round, to try to compensate for the larger pool of players by relating it to the larger number of teams:


Rd 1 (2) Pokulok, Nash
Rd 2 (8) Nieuwendyk, Manderville, Ratushny, Hughes, Belzile, Pelletier, LeNeveu, Sawada
Rd 3 (10) Dryden, Lowe, O'Byrne, Hynes, Starrett, Cairns, Stienburg, Ertel, Fegaras, Castagna

Morgan Barron?
Sixth round pick.

Some of these examples provide what may be a very attractive aspect of Cornell hockey: its track record of developing successful pro players.

abmarks

Quote from: TrotskyElite Prospects has Giovanni DiGiulian coming to Cornell this Fall.

I might have known this before but forgotten.

He's a coaches kid. His father was an assistant coach at UVM for 9 years, then Middlebury for 2, and HC for the last 12 at D2 St. Michael's.

There was discussion earlier about the homegrown kids getting away, and our not landing the offspring of he guys that went pro.  But landing a coach's kid seems like a but of a coup.

dbilmes

After much speculation, it's official. Four freshmen are entering the program this fall.

arugula

Murray's dad was an excellent NHLer. Hopefully the apple doesn't fall far.  Major's uncle was my classmate and nice contributor for four years.  Sounds like a good class. Plugs a goalie hole for the future. Obviously didn't need a ton with all the returnees.

Beeeej

Quote from: dbilmesAfter much speculation, it's official. Four freshmen are entering the program this fall.

"Katz! Dogs!" chant, anyone?
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

BearLover

Quote from: arugulaMurray's dad was an excellent NHLer. Hopefully the apple doesn't fall far.  Major's uncle was my classmate and nice contributor for four years.  Sounds like a good class. Plugs a goalie hole for the future. Obviously didn't need a ton with all the returnees.
Major put up great numbers in the USHL and should be able to contribute from day 1. Wolfenberg is hard to judge because he missed almost all of last year with an injury. Maybe he can fight for a spot as the 7th D. The top 6 spots look pretty locked right now (barring injury, of course). Murray seems to have raw potential given his size and genes, but he will already be 21 by the time the season starts, so it's hard to say how much more room he has to grow (as a hockey player—clearly not much more room to grow size-wise). Katz will fight with Keopple for the backup position this year and then hopefully fight with Keopple and Roest for the starting job the following year.

Should be a very good team this year. We've lost our best player, but everyone else will be returning another year older. And Major should contribute from the get-go.

Will

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Quote from: dbilmesAfter much speculation, it's official. Four freshmen are entering the program this fall.

"Katz! Dogs!" chant, anyone?
Maybe "Katz! Mice!" instead?
Is next year here yet?

scoop85

Pretty much everyone assumed we'd have a small class coming in, so no surprise there. I didn't expect DiGiulian to be in this class given how few openings we have on the roster. I expected to see Roest rather than Katz to be in the incoming class, but not shocked it was the other way around.

Swampy

Quote from: Will
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: dbilmesAfter much speculation, it's official. Four freshmen are entering the program this fall.

"Katz! Dogs!" chant, anyone?
Maybe "Katz! Mice!" instead?

Well, at least it won't be hard to come up with a song for him.

ugarte

Quote from: Will
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: dbilmesAfter much speculation, it's official. Four freshmen are entering the program this fall.

"Katz! Dogs!" chant, anyone?
Maybe "Katz! Mice!" instead?
Probably won't come up much. Shane's gonna be the everyday goalie; we got the new guy Justin Katz.

Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: Will
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: dbilmesAfter much speculation, it's official. Four freshmen are entering the program this fall.

"Katz! Dogs!" chant, anyone?
Maybe "Katz! Mice!" instead?

Well, at least it won't be hard to come up with a song for him.

Or this

How about "Katz!  Pussies!" for the cheer.

Trotsky

Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82How about "Katz!  Pussies!" for the cheer.
Spoken like an 82.  B-]

ugarte

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Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: Will
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: dbilmesAfter much speculation, it's official. Four freshmen are entering the program this fall.

"Katz! Dogs!" chant, anyone?
Maybe "Katz! Mice!" instead?

Well, at least it won't be hard to come up with a song for him.

Or this

How about "Katz!  Pussies!" for the cheer.
You trying to get Mike to yell at the crowd one more time for the road?