Cornell lacrosse 2023 end of season honors, postmortems

Started by billhoward, May 19, 2023, 11:20:39 AM

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billhoward

Thread for All-America, Schmeisser Cup (lax defenseman), Tewaarton; transfer portal players.

Tewaarton Award (Tewaaraton site) Winner announced after season ends.
Finalists:
Tucker Dordevic, Georgetown – Grad. Student, Attack
Pat Kavanagh, Notre Dame – Sr., Attack
CJ Kirst, Cornell – Jr., Attack
Brennan O'Neill, Duke – Jr., Attack
Connor Shellenberger, Virginia – Sr., Attack

Schmeisser Award (Wikipedia site)
Previous Cornell winners:
1944   Fred Allner, Jr.
1971    John Burnap
1977, 78 Chris Kane 2x
2007    Mitch Belisle
Gavin Adler is the presumptive 2023 as the only unanimous AA first-team defender.

All-America Team (Media / Inside Lacrosse) (IL story
First Team:
A-Brennan O'Neill, Duke (unanimous)
A-CJ Kirst, Cornell (unanimous less one vote)
A-Pat Kavanagh, Notre Dame
A/M-Matt Campbell, Villanova
M-Sam Handley, Penn (unanimous less one vote)
M-Thomas McConvey, Virginia
FO-Jake Naso, Duke
SSDM-Payton Rezanka, Loyola
SSDM-Chet Comizio, Villanova
LSM-Roy Meyer, Boston U
D-Gavin Adler, Cornell (unanimous)
D-Brett Makar, Maryland
D-Owen Grant, Delaware
G-Liam Entenmann, Notre Dame
Ivies on second team:
A-Coulter Mackesy, Princeton
M-Alexander Vardaro, Princeton
SSDM-Beau Pederson, Princeton
Ivies on third team:
A-Matt Brandau, Yale
SSDM-Piper Bond, Penn

Coach of the Year (USILA 12/22 announcement)
The USILA weekly was a day later than the media poll. The USILA coach of the year should be the Paul Masson award (sell no wine before its time). It's announced after Thanksgiving. Last year should have been Connor Buczek's year (time with modest expectations falls 2 goals short of national title) so instead it went to Maryland's John Tillman (Cornellian) who went 0-4 in title games before winning in 2017 and 2022.

ugarte

Quote from: billhoward(unanimous less one vote)
the word for this is penanimous

billhoward

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: billhoward(unanimous less one vote)
the word for this is penanimous
I checked penanimous and found no definition for it. Mind you, this is on a low-bandwidth Adirondacks library connection. But it ain't there.
Unless one wants to go toe to toe with William F. Buckley trading intricate words, there's little gained using words almost nobody knows. And some people hear a rare word and think, what an A-hole.
You can get away with penultimate, enough people know it, and enough of those who don't have heard it.

RichH

Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: billhoward(unanimous less one vote)
the word for this is penanimous
I checked penanimous and found no definition for it. Mind you, this is on a low-bandwidth Adirondacks library connection. But it ain't there.
Unless one wants to go toe to toe with William F. Buckley trading intricate words, there's little gained using words almost nobody knows. And some people hear a rare word and think, what an A-hole.
You can get away with penultimate, enough people know it, and enough of those who don't have heard it.

I simply took it as a word-nerd joke.

ugarte

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: billhoward(unanimous less one vote)
the word for this is penanimous
I checked penanimous and found no definition for it. Mind you, this is on a low-bandwidth Adirondacks library connection. But it ain't there.
Unless one wants to go toe to toe with William F. Buckley trading intricate words, there's little gained using words almost nobody knows. And some people hear a rare word and think, what an A-hole.
You can get away with penultimate, enough people know it, and enough of those who don't have heard it.

I simply took it as a word-nerd joke.
ding ding ding

Trotsky

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: billhoward(unanimous less one vote)
the word for this is penanimous
I checked penanimous and found no definition for it. Mind you, this is on a low-bandwidth Adirondacks library connection. But it ain't there.
Unless one wants to go toe to toe with William F. Buckley trading intricate words, there's little gained using words almost nobody knows. And some people hear a rare word and think, what an A-hole.
You can get away with penultimate, enough people know it, and enough of those who don't have heard it.

I simply took it as a word-nerd joke.

OTOH, peninitial is a word and means second place.

paena is Latin for "almost."

I move we make this a word, and I will be referring to Tom Seaver's penperfect game from now on.

George64

Quote from: billhowardYou can get away with penultimate, enough people know it, and enough of those who don't have heard it.

Before I knew what penultimate meant, I came across antepenultimate in a math proof.    I thought the writer was a pedantic jerk.
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ugarte

it really is something to get a lecture about using five dollar words on what i thought was very obviously a made-up word

Trotsky

Quote from: ugarteit really is something to get a lecture about using five dollar words on what i thought was very obviously a made-up word

That's Cornell, Suzyn.

woodpile

I think that all here would agree with Quint and the other 2 sycophants om ESPN that 1) Corrigan should immediately be conferred with sainthood and 2)
Pat Kavanaugh should now be considered as one of the greatest sports figures in modern history.  In an unprecedented display of courage and athletic heroism, he actually (believe it or not) played with a sore hamstring.  It was critical that the tv audience be reminded of that approximately 100 times during the broadcast.
Here's to a Cornell return to the tournament next year. Just my 2 cent's advice to Connor B: next time you win the faceoff in OT, call a timeout.  Please.

mike1960

We went to Europe for the last couple of weeks, and upon return, I find that I still have not completely recovered from the tournament loss.

Question: Did Cornell lose to a Michigan team with inferior talent, and if so, what does that say about the program?

scoop85

Quote from: mike1960We went to Europe for the last couple of weeks, and upon return, I find that I still have not completely recovered from the tournament loss.

Question: Did Cornell lose to a Michigan team with inferior talent, and if so, what does that say about the program?

Based on what I know if lacrosse recruiting, Michigan has been pulling in guys of similar ranking to what we've been bringing in. So I don't think they had inferior talent.

dbilmes

Chase Ierlan is going to be the goalie for Hopkins next season. He ends up playing again for Millman, who recruited him and coached him at Cornell for the start of his career.

billhoward

Rip Van Winkle news dep't: Five decades after he played HS lacrosse on Long Island then led Cornell to two of its national titles, two decades after he died in the World Trade Center attack, Eamon McEneaney '77 will be induced into the Nassau HS Hall of Fame. PLayers Bob Rule, Robert Henrickson, Bruce Arena, and coaches Richie Moran and David Pietramala are already there. Sept. 28 event.


https://cornellbigred.com/news/2023/7/18/mens-lacrosse-mceneaney-to-be-inducted-into-nassau-county-high-school-hall-of-fame.aspx

semsox

Not quite understanding whatever criteria would be used such that five other people associated with the Cornell program would get in before him, but a nice acknowledgement nevertheless