Who deserves 2023 D1 championship

Started by billhoward, April 06, 2023, 01:26:37 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

billhoward

Who should we root for in 2023 in Tampa at the Frozen Four?

scoop85


Trotsky

Either there is no "deserves," or the team that wins deserves it.  Divine Mandate.

Fuck the B1G.  Go East.

Dafatone

I don't like the Big10, but I think of Michigan and Minnesota as hockey schools independent of their conference. Especially Minnesota.

So go Minnesota. Lord knows that's a sad fanbase for professional sports. Let them have something.

Trotsky


Robb

I'd love to cheer for an ECAC team;  to bad there's just 2 B10 schools, a HE, and an AHL franchise masquerading as a college.
Let's Go RED!

RichH

Quote from: TrotskyEither there is no "deserves," or the team that wins deserves it.  Divine Mandate.

This.

"Deserve's got nothin' to do with it."

jtwcornell91

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: TrotskyEither there is no "deserves," or the team that wins deserves it.  Divine Mandate.

This.

"Deserve's got nothin' to do with it."

I read it as "who do you want to win it".  Of course, the only games that have gone the way I wanted this year were Denver-Cornell and BU-Western Michigan, so...

Trotsky

My hot take is having this malevolent glutton in our conference forces us to build a team that can compete with it, which accidentally will build a team that can win a national championship.

Go Q.  Set a standard for the rest of us to ascend to.  That would be ironic.

RichH

Quote from: TrotskyMy hot take is having this malevolent glutton in our conference forces us to build a team that can compete with it, which accidentally will build a team that can win a national championship.

Go Q.  Set a standard for the rest of us to ascend to.  That would be ironic.

That's fine, but I'm not on board. I don't want the fucking teletubbies of the league to feel that joy. They literally rent fans. Fuck them.

Trotsky

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: TrotskyMy hot take is having this malevolent glutton in our conference forces us to build a team that can compete with it, which accidentally will build a team that can win a national championship.

Go Q.  Set a standard for the rest of us to ascend to.  That would be ironic.

That's fine, but I'm not on board. I don't want the fucking teletubbies of the league to feel that joy. They literally rent fans. Fuck them.
TBH, those fans are pretty cute though.

BearLover

Quote from: TrotskyMy hot take is having this malevolent glutton in our conference forces us to build a team that can compete with it, which accidentally will build a team that can win a national championship.

Go Q.  Set a standard for the rest of us to ascend to.  That would be ironic.
This take makes no sense. First of all, it assumes Cornell hasn't been doing everything possible to win thus far. That's untrue, and further, why would Yale and Union winning not have produced the same result? Both Yale and Union won the national championship after a period of extended dominance.

Second of all, it assumes there are different avenues we can pursue to compete with Q. Well, given Q's team this year is largely fifth-year players and transfers, which Cornell is unable to do for several reasons, I don't see any alternative avenues that would allow Cornell to match Q. As I say above, if those avenues did exist, Cornell would already be taking them.

Trotsky

Quote from: BearLoverwhy would Yale and Union winning  not have produced the same result? Both Yale and Union won the national championship after a period of extended dominance.
A very short period.

Q is going to keep doing this, year after year.  They aren't going to stop.  They have systemic advantages.  They have changed the standard you have to play at to win the conference.

There have been other teams that rose to challenge Cornell -- RPI, Clarkson, St. Lawrence, Yale, Union -- but they all did it by having a few fluke great recruiting classes and then converting on them.  Then they fell.  There are only two schools that are simply reloading every year: Harvard (the name) and Q (zero admission standards).

Harvard has somehow continually failed < your comment on the decrepit character of the aristocracy here >.

Q has succeeded (except in Lake Placid) and there appears to be nothing to stop them from continuing to succeed, at least until Pecknold is removed in a tragic Zamboni auto-erotic asphyxiation accident.

So if Mike doesn't want to spend the rest of his coaching career fighting for second place, he will need to find us another gear.  How? I dunno, but necessity is the mother of invention.

Dafatone

I have to figure that individual moments of success have a tiny tiny effect on recruiting. Especially in 2023 when everyone has internets and whatnot. It's not like you can establish secret pipelines to untapped regions of Canada anymore or whatever (looking your way Nanaimo).

Recruits will want to go to Q because they're good. Whether they win or lose the national championship is gonna have a tiny impact. Or no impact. They're good either way.

If they implode and win six games next season (if only), that will change things. If they have a "down" year, finish 2nd in the conference and lose the conference finals and only win one game in the 2023-2024 NCAAs, that will not change things.

George64

Quote from: TrotskyGo Q.  Set a standard for the rest of us to ascend to.  That would be ironic.

I was curious, so I took a look at Q's website.  I found "US News & World Report names Quinnipiac among the best national universities in the nation."  US News ranks them 166th!  "The Princeton Review ranks Quinnipiac among the top 388 colleges in the country."  I didn't check to see who's 389.
.