Syracuse basketball

[billhoward]

Syracuse basketball coach Jim Boeheim was dismissed this week after 47 seasons. "Retirement" was not used in the press release. A bunch of people on Twitter said it was rude. Not so many people said he should have known when to go, say 2-3 years ago? Like when he went 18-14 heading into Covid in 2019 and didn't get out of the NCAA first round, or last year after a 16-17 record and no NCAA invite.

Cornell's last win over Syracuse predates Boeheim. This season it was a 15-point loss. Our Sweet Sixteen season of 2009-2010, it was also by 15.

Great coach, great for NYS basketball, too bad he couldn't walk out on his terms.


WSJ story: https://www.wsj.com/articles/jim-boeheim-syracuse-basketball-coach-1229ccb8?st=c59bgu08yphfxgw&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Cornell history with Syracuse, 31 wins, 96 losses: https://cornellbigred.com/sports/mens-basketball/opponent-history/syracuse-university/38

[upprdeck]

There are a ton of faculty on campus that the same thing could be said about.

[RichH]

Syracuse basketball coach Jim Boeheim was dismissed this week after 47 seasons. "Retirement" was not used in the press release. A bunch of people on Twitter said it was rude. Not so many people said he should have known when to go, say 2-3 years ago? Like when he went 18-14 heading into Covid in 2019 and didn't get out of the NCAA first round, or last year after a 16-17 record and no NCAA invite.

Cornell's last win over Syracuse predates Boeheim. This season it was a 15-point loss. Our Sweet Sixteen season of 2009-2010, it was also by 15.

Great coach, great for NYS basketball, too bad he couldn't walk out on his terms.


WSJ story: https://www.wsj.com/articles/jim-boeheim-syracuse-basketball-coach-1229ccb8?st=c59bgu08yphfxgw&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Cornell history with Syracuse, 31 wins, 96 losses: https://cornellbigred.com/sports/mens-basketball/opponent-history/syracuse-university/38

It doesn't sound like he ever defined what his terms were. If it's "when I'm 6-feet under," at some point, the AD has to make a call or lose out on a preferred successor and way forward for the future of the program.

On one hand, he's held the "oldest D1 coach in history" title for 3 years now. On the other, his teams put in two sweet-16 finishes in the past 5 seasons, five in the last 10, including two Final Fours. And he got to coach his sons.

After that, if the program wants to plan for the future, I can see that. I bet the conversations were tense given the legend status, and he must have refused any dignified golden pathway out the exit that was presented.

[billhoward]

Syracuse basketball coach Jim Boeheim was dismissed this week after 47 seasons. "Retirement" was not used in the press release. A bunch of people on Twitter said it was rude. Not so many people said he should have known when to go, say 2-3 years ago? Like when he went 18-14 heading into Covid in 2019 and didn't get out of the NCAA first round, or last year after a 16-17 record and no NCAA invite.

Cornell's last win over Syracuse predates Boeheim. This season it was a 15-point loss. Our Sweet Sixteen season of 2009-2010, it was also by 15.

Great coach, great for NYS basketball, too bad he couldn't walk out on his terms.


WSJ story: https://www.wsj.com/articles/jim-boeheim-syracuse-basketball-coach-1229ccb8?st=c59bgu08yphfxgw&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Cornell history with Syracuse, 31 wins, 96 losses: https://cornellbigred.com/sports/mens-basketball/opponent-history/syracuse-university/38

It doesn't sound like he ever defined what his terms were. If it's "when I'm 6-feet under," at some point, the AD has to make a call or lose out on a preferred successor and way forward for the future of the program.

On one hand, he's held the "oldest D1 coach in history" title for 3 years now. On the other, his teams put in two sweet-16 finishes in the past 5 seasons, five in the last 10, including two Final Fours. And he got to coach his sons.

After that, if the program wants to plan for the future, I can see that. I bet the conversations were tense given the legend status, and he must have refused any dignified golden pathway out the exit that was presented.

I think back to Pedo U -- sorry, Penn State -- when then President Graham Spanier went to Joe Paterno's house circa 2006 (because Joe Pa wouldn't go to him) one weekend when there were rumblings about football-affiliated staff messing around with boys and the president wanted the 80-year-old Joe Pa to think about wrapping up his career. Paterno reportedly told off Spanier, and he lasted another 5 years. So it's possible a coach such as Boeheim could have held sway over the administration in Syracuse and prolonged his career past its sell-by date.

Maybe Syracuse and the president had negotiated a gentler exit and somehow the choreography at season's end didn't quite work out.

[ugarte]

They let him coach Jimmy and Buddy then gave him a year to say goodbye on his own, then they shoved him out when he wouldn't volunteer to leave.

[upprdeck]

not really how it went down.  But clearly when you have a plan and one party doesnt follow thru as expected it comes off looking pretty bad.

[scoop85]

not really how it went down.  But clearly when you have a plan and one party doesnt follow thru as expected it comes off looking pretty bad.

Will be interesting to see if they regret promoting Autry, who has no head coaching experience, rather than bringing in someone who's shown proven results elsewhere.

[upprdeck]

Yeah.  the way its gone now Gmac has to decide, is a head coach, or a career assistant as well. If Autry fails, he is not going to get the gig and if he succeeds, he has to wait probably 10+ yrs.

I don't know if it was the right answer either.

[ugarte]

not really how it went down.  But clearly when you have a plan and one party doesnt follow thru as expected it comes off looking pretty bad.

how did it go down? it defintely felt like they gave him every opportunity to make a dignified exit and he refused to get the hint.