Bracketology 2023

Started by 617BigRed, February 15, 2023, 07:57:30 AM

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CU77

Quote from: upprdeckBut if you are going to use scores, changing from a 75-65 game to an 82-77 game is vastly different than being up 2-0 and the goalie us pulled and winning 4-0..
Two ENGs is pretty rare. And anyway this is just something you have to live with in trying to do rankings in a low-scoring sport. Of course further stats could be used as well. Here, for example, is a pretty fancy pro-hockey ranking model I found in a quick google search: https://moneypuck.com/about.htm

But these days, the best method is probably just to throw ten years of data into a machine-learning model.

Roy 82

Surely someone must be pumping huge amounts of sports data into AI/machine learning pattern finding algorithms and making bank using betting platforms?

It looks like ChatGPT is not the answer (and likely has also been deliberately neutered for betting-related questions):

Who is more likely to win the upcoming NCAA Men's Ice Hockey playoff series between Cornell and Clarkson?

As an AI language model, I cannot predict the outcome of sporting events with certainty. However, I can provide you with some information about both teams to help you make an informed prediction.

Cornell and Clarkson are both strong teams in NCAA Men's Ice Hockey, and both have had successful seasons so far. Cornell finished the regular season with a record of 15-2-2, while Clarkson finished with a record of 13-6-1.

Cornell is known for having a strong defense, as they have allowed the fewest goals per game in the NCAA this season. They also have a potent offense, as they have scored the second-most goals per game in the NCAA. Clarkson, on the other hand, has a more balanced approach, with a solid defense and offense.

Based on these factors, it's difficult to determine which team is more likely to win the playoff series between Cornell and Clarkson. It will likely be a closely contested matchup, and the outcome may come down to which team performs better on the day of the game.

CU77

Quote from: Roy 82ChatGPT: Cornell finished the regular season with a record of 15-2-2
Um ...

upprdeck

that 60 mins piece didnt help give you the wamt fuzzies on the chat engine.
 
I mean if its not vetting things, and these days its hard to really know whats true, all it would take is an effort by someone to post inaccurate information and off the chat api would go propagating it.

ugarte

Quote from: CU77
Quote from: Roy 82ChatGPT: Cornell finished the regular season with a record of 15-2-2
Um ...
the best feature of chatGPT is that it is a stream of bullshit and constantly spews out false information to justify it's premises. it could be president one day.

Trotsky

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: CU77
Quote from: Roy 82ChatGPT: Cornell finished the regular season with a record of 15-2-2
Um ...
the best feature of chatGPT is that it is a stream of bullshit and constantly spews out false information to justify it's premises. it could be president one day.
It's the manifestation of "truthiness."

French Rage

Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: TrotskyYou could fix basketball by giving extra foul shots for multiple fouls within a certain interval.  Also, basketball should get one time out per half, period.
Just give the fouled team the option of taking the ball again.  The fouls will stop.

Allow the fouled team to use two balls for the next possession.
03/23/02: Maine 4, Harvard 3
03/28/03: BU 6, Harvard 4
03/26/04: Maine 5, Harvard 4
03/26/05: UNH 3, Harvard 2
03/25/06: Maine 6, Harvard 1

Trotsky

Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: TrotskyYou could fix basketball by giving extra foul shots for multiple fouls within a certain interval.  Also, basketball should get one time out per half, period.
Just give the fouled team the option of taking the ball again.  The fouls will stop.

Allow the fouled team to use two balls for the next possession.
If you can dodge a wrench

upprdeck

HE Merrimack is on the bubble..  If BU doesnt win out, HE could go from 1 team to 3 in a heartbeat.  Merrimack/NE are the 2 on the cusp. if BU loses they will get 2 in. Prov/BC winning this weekend helps more I think than letting Merrimack and NE winning does.

Is it in Cornells best interest to have Mich Tech and Minn St get to the finals and make sure no 3rd team sneaks in from the  CCHA?  In a perfect world Mich tech runs the table and Minn st loses to Ferris tomorrow.  That still not create a buffer for Cornell. Its probably better for Minn St to just win.

B10 we want Minn to beat Mich St.


NCHC if NDak can beat Omaha again that would be nice.

Trotsky

We jumped back to 12.

10. Western Michigan
11. Michigan Tech
12. Cornell
13. Alaska-Fairbanks
14. Minnesota-Mankato
15. Merrimack
16. Michigan State

BearLover

Even though Cornell has a loss to give in the series vs. Clarkson, tomorrow night looks to me like the big one as far as the NCAA is concerned. Harvard is currently 6th in the PWR. If Cornell wins tomorrow, I think they will be in pretty solid shape for an at-large bid even if they lose to Harvard in Lake Placid.

upprdeck

It comes down to bid stealers at that pt.  A loss to harvard would knock them back down a small bit.  

But if Minn wins tonight that really only leaves a couple chances for a bid steal to happen.

After tonight we know a lot more.

upprdeck

So looking at the probability matrix it has Minn st. 96% and NMich 33%.  

If NMich wins, Minn state falls to 15 and would be out and thats if chalk wins and nothing else happens and they are still behind Alaska.

Given its really a who wins thing its probably 70/30 Minn St gets in?

adamw

Quote from: upprdeckSo looking at the probability matrix it has Minn st. 9% and NMich 33%.  

If NMich wins, Minn state falls to 15 and would be out and thats if chalk wins and nothing else happens and they are still behind Alaska.

Given its really a who wins thing its probably 70/30 Minn St gets in?

Might as well quote The Matrix - which says 72% ... however, here is where it doesn't account for the fact that NMU is hot. On the other hand, it also doesn't account for it being at Mankato.
College Hockey News: http://www.collegehockeynews.com

upprdeck

well someone noticed because Minn state just dropped to 72%