Union @ Cornell

[arugula]

Take a look at Penn State's non-conference schedule -- against which it went 9-0

Very weak and a lot of close games. All AHA or independent.

Which I guess is the point. Penn State doesn't want any decent opponents outside their league.

[Trotsky]

Take a look at Penn State's non-conference schedule -- against which it went 9-0

Very weak and a lot of close games. All AHA or independent.

Which I guess is the point. Penn State doesn't want any decent opponents outside their league.

Or they have the same problem we do.

[RichH]

The real solution is for CMU to go D-1 and join the ECAC.  Tartans is an awesome nickname and they'd slot in between Cornell, RPI, and Clarkson for an Eng school, and we could kick out Q.  Add RIT and kick out Union and now we're talking.

Is there any rumor of CMU fielding a team, or did you just pick them? I suppose they could be Princeton's travel partner.

None at all.  I was fantasizing.

A day in Pittsburgh.  I'm a bit worried about your fantasies, man.

Pittsburgh has had a pretty good tech industry seeding in the past couple of decades (proximity to CMU certainly helps), and with that a lot of good things happening there. I know I had a lot of fun there for the Frozen Four, and you'd be hard pressed to find another city that inspires such fervent civic pride amongst its regional natives.

[upprdeck]

I dont know I never realized that the major becomes a new PP after a goal is scored.. Maybe its because we never seemed to score on them..

did anyone look up fastest 4 goal stretches.. 4 in a min is pretty crazy

[ACM]

I dont know I never realized that the major becomes a new PP after a goal is scored.. Maybe its because we never seemed to score on them..

did anyone look up fastest 4 goal stretches.. 4 in a min is pretty crazy

Three goals in 22 seconds might be a Cornell record for fastest 3 goals. The Cornell Hockey Record Book (image attached) shows 3 goals in 24 seconds in a game back in 1976, but the Record Book only goes through the 1986-87 season, and I don't have the means (or the desire) to check the intervening 36 years.

I've never researched fastest 4 goals. I do recall Carlo Ugolini scoring 4 goals in 53 seconds in a freshman game, though.

[DL]

Anyone have a link to video of the scoring breakout?

This!

Thanks! Shame it was just highlights instead of full play time surrounding the goals, considering how short it was.

[JasonN95]

I rewatched the first period -that was fun- and picking up on something Grady said I rewound and watched goals two through six. I believe those five goals were scored on five shots. There's several shot attempts between goals two and three but I don't think any would be official shots as they were wide or never made it to the net.

[marty]

Anyone have a link to video of the scoring breakout?

This!

Thanks! Shame it was just highlights instead of full play time surrounding the goals, considering how short it was.

13 minutes and 13 seconds for your entertainment.

[Trotsky]

Fastest 4 in NHL is apparently 80 seconds during this fascinating game, during which Boston also had 3 goals in a different 51 second interval.

[Swampy]

The real solution is for CMU to go D-1 and join the ECAC.  Tartans is an awesome nickname and they'd slot in between Cornell, RPI, and Clarkson for an Eng school, and we could kick out Q.  Add RIT and kick out Union and now we're talking.

Is there any rumor of CMU fielding a team, or did you just pick them? I suppose they could be Princeton's travel partner.

None at all.  I was fantasizing.

A day in Pittsburgh.  I'm a bit worried about your fantasies, man.

Pittsburgh has had a pretty good tech industry seeding in the past couple of decades (proximity to CMU certainly helps), and with that a lot of good things happening there. I know I had a lot of fun there for the Frozen Four, and you'd be hard pressed to find another city that inspires such fervent civic pride amongst its regional natives.

Cleveland? Buffalo?

[billhoward]

I dont know I never realized that the major becomes a new PP after a goal is scored.. Maybe its because we never seemed to score on them..

did anyone look up fastest 4 goal stretches.. 4 in a min is pretty crazy

Three goals in 22 seconds might be a Cornell record for fastest 3 goals. The Cornell Hockey Record Book (image attached) shows 3 goals in 24 seconds in a game back in 1976, but the Record Book only goes through the 1986-87 season, and I don't have the means (or the desire) to check the intervening 36 years.
I've never researched fastest 4 goals. I do recall Carlo Ugolini scoring 4 goals in 53 seconds in a freshman game, though.

Carlo Ugolini '73, nickname The Magician, was a classic Harkness-era recruit, scrappy if not big (I loved how at 5-foot-7 I could look him straight in the eyes) and, legend has it, he talked his way into a number of second assists and possibly one when he was in the penalty box. (Hey, if Uri Geller could bend a spoon with his nose...) Sixty-nine points senior year, didn't even make the All-America team. Cornell played fewer games then but we beat a lot of early-season opponents by 9-4, 7-1 kinds of scores.

John Fumio the same era, same size and energy -- think Topher Scott size, but in the era of plaid slacks and leather coats -- who took a shot in the face, lost a tooth, and I'm trying to recall if he finished the game. This is the era before dental implants made human teeth more expendable.

Arthur, about Record Book stats from the Harkness-Bertrand-McCutcheon-Reycroft coaching era, there is -- will? -- always be someone with a desire to better capture history. When he was at Cornell, Donald Kagan History wrote *four volumes* on the outbreak of the Peloponnesian War. One of these is more important.

[upprdeck]

a database would make this pretty easy to figure out and compute without having to go look for stuff. I know we have something here is listed  even if it doesnt work.

[billhoward]

I dont know I never realized that the major becomes a new PP after a goal is scored.. Maybe its because we never seemed to score on them.

* Which makes 2023 a nice outlier
* There can never be a perfect (eg 4 goals, or 5) five-minute powerplay. If even one tick of the five-minute timer is left, there's a one-second PP opportunity that you don't score on.
* On the plus side, a team that can't score on a 5-minute power play is oh-for-one, not oh-for-2.5.

[ugarte]

I dont know I never realized that the major becomes a new PP after a goal is scored.. Maybe its because we never seemed to score on them.

* Which makes 2023 a nice outlier
* There can never be a perfect (eg 4 goals, or 5) five-minute powerplay. If even one tick of the five-minute timer is left, there's a one-second PP opportunity.

But, cf, Union v Colgate, 2/3/2023

[adamw]

Carnegie Mellon did have a team - for 3 years - just prior to WW II. When it was known as Carnegie Tech.

Pitt also had a team - first when it was known as "Western University of Pennsylvania", even before 1900 ... and then two of the same three years CM had a team.

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/teamHistory/Pittsburgh/431

Done quite a bit of research on all the Pittsburgh area schools. Things were quite active a few years with them, and teams in Ohio. And Ivies would go to Pittsburgh and play tournaments.