Union @ Cornell

Trotsky · February 04, 2023, 11:51:10 PM

Quote from: arugulaGot it. Still doesn't explain why BU shooting up the ratings hasn't helped. Or perhaps it has just not as much as other factors have hurt us.

The idea that the conference games are a wash supports the idea that we should schedule as strong an OOC slate as possible. We had this debate a few years ago and the perspective was decidedly split. I guess UMD is theoretically an opponent to strengthen that aspect but they have had a down year. Instead of AIC and SHU perhaps Hockey East opponents? Otoh you want to win the OOC games. Science!

I don't think anybody opposes strong NC opponents, per se. The question is whether scheduling them early when we have had far fewer (or no) games under our belt is wise.

As for swapping weaker for stronger teams, it's not that easy -- it's about finding a dance partner with the same hole in their schedule. I'm sure we would have LOVED to play that pair against North Dakota or BC or Penn State rather than AIC, but we can't dictate who has their evenings free.

arugula · February 04, 2023, 11:59:39 PM

True. H has the advantage of many strong, local, non-league teams they can easily fit in without a long trip, plus the Beanpot always provides two quality losses. For us I guess the closest strong non league program would be Penn State.

Trotsky · February 05, 2023, 12:12:31 AM

I agree it would be worth our while to develop Pedo State as a rival, if they have any interest at all. It looks like they are going to be a consistently good program, there are commonalities in our university missions, and they aren't far.

RIT is super close, but they aren't consistent and they have Loser Conference stank. I guess the next likely suspect is... back to Burlington? (except they suck) or UConn.

redice · February 05, 2023, 12:18:50 AM

Quote from: TrotskyHoly shit. This must have been what 1967 was like.

That's just what I told my wife during the first intermission.

Trotsky · February 05, 2023, 12:23:16 AM

The real solution is for CMU to go D-1 and join the ECAC. Tartans is an awesome nickname and they'd slot in between Cornell, RPI, and Clarkson for an Eng school, and we could kick out Q. Add RIT and kick out Union and now we're talking.

DL · February 05, 2023, 07:45:53 AM

Anyone have a link to video of the scoring breakout?

adamw · February 05, 2023, 07:50:57 AM

Take a look at Penn State's non-conference schedule -- against which it went 9-0

ursusminor · February 05, 2023, 07:56:54 AM

Quote from: TrotskyThe real solution is for CMU to go D-1 and join the ECAC. Tartans is an awesome nickname and they'd slot in between Cornell, RPI, and Clarkson for an Eng school, and we could kick out Q. Add RIT and kick out Union and now we're talking.

Is there any rumor of CMU fielding a team, or did you just pick them? I suppose they could be Princeton's travel partner.

marty · February 05, 2023, 08:01:59 AM

Quote from: DLAnyone have a link to video of the scoring breakout?

This!

arugula · February 05, 2023, 08:31:49 AM

Quote from: adamwTake a look at Penn State's non-conference schedule -- against which it went 9-0

Very weak and a lot of close games. All AHA or independent.

Trotsky · February 05, 2023, 09:40:48 AM

Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: TrotskyThe real solution is for CMU to go D-1 and join the ECAC. Tartans is an awesome nickname and they'd slot in between Cornell, RPI, and Clarkson for an Eng school, and we could kick out Q. Add RIT and kick out Union and now we're talking.

Is there any rumor of CMU fielding a team, or did you just pick them? I suppose they could be Princeton's travel partner.

None at all. I was fantasizing.

Dafatone · February 05, 2023, 09:56:22 AM

Quote from: arugulaGot it. Still doesn't explain why BU shooting up the ratings hasn't helped. Or perhaps it has just not as much as other factors have hurt us.

The idea that the conference games are a wash supports the idea that we should schedule as strong an OOC slate as possible. We had this debate a few years ago and the perspective was decidedly split. I guess UMD is theoretically an opponent to strengthen that aspect but they have had a down year. Instead of AIC and SHU perhaps Hockey East opponents? Otoh you want to win the OOC games. Science!

Another thing to remember is that a lot of teams play each other. So BU doing well helps us some, but it also helps a bunch of other teams. And Hockey East teams play BU twice, so it helps them more than us.

Trotsky · February 05, 2023, 10:04:16 AM

Quote from: dag14Sorry; I wasn't clear. Bertrand pulled the goalie looking for #10....

Given how hockey was then I am actually surprised Yale didn't start the second period with four successive line brawls.

Robb · February 05, 2023, 10:46:42 AM

I was late to start watching; when I clicked it on, it was 1-0 and the refs were conferring to decide if there had been a major penalty. What a sequence- Union's feet were just stuck in the mud as Cornell skated by at will for the full 5 min.

Give My Regards · February 05, 2023, 10:49:36 AM

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: TrotskyThe real solution is for CMU to go D-1 and join the ECAC. Tartans is an awesome nickname and they'd slot in between Cornell, RPI, and Clarkson for an Eng school, and we could kick out Q. Add RIT and kick out Union and now we're talking.

Is there any rumor of CMU fielding a team, or did you just pick them? I suppose they could be Princeton's travel partner.
None at all. I was fantasizing.

A day in Pittsburgh. I'm a bit worried about your fantasies, man.

(They do have a club team.)