Cornell football 2023

Started by billhoward, January 11, 2023, 12:57:24 PM

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Trotsky

Quote from: Weder
Quote from: TrotskyNo, what I mean is since when does a fair catch at the 4 come out to the 25?

Also, that Contraception ad is great.  I can't believe we finally learned how to do messaging after 40 years of utter incompetence.

The fair catch rule has been in place for a while in college, and the NFL just adopted it this year. A fair catch anywhere inside the 25 on a kickoff is a touchback.
Tells you how much football I have watched lately.

Jeff Hopkins '82

Just got home from the game.  

When we blitzed, and it wasn't often, we put some decent heat on the Lehigh QB.  When we dropped back in a prevent defense, we gave him all day to find receivers in the seams.  Which he did.

One other thing I noticed:  Whenever we ran any kind of screen, toss, or sweep it went to the short side.  Always.

Usually we opened every drive with an attempt to run right up the middle.  Once we tried a long bomb, that unfortunately went incomplete.  So we tried to run up the middle on second down instead.  Ugh.

I was sitting near the Wang family. Joe Wang (Jameson's dad) said that Archer goes strictly by analytics.  With the ball on the 1 and one of the best running QB's in the NCAA, Joe said that Archer was still only going to do what the computer tells him to do. Fortunately it told him to go for it.  Unfortunately, it didn't tell him to do anything besides a plain old obvious QB sneak.

I said it a bunch of times during the game:  I hate Archer.

Al DeFlorio

Running backs gained 23 yards on 19 carries.
Al DeFlorio '65

Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: Al DeFlorioRunning backs gained 23 yards on 19 carries.

That says it all, doesn't it?

ugarte

Quote from: Al DeFlorioRunning backs gained 23 yards on 19 carries.
if archer is an analytics guy someone needs to update the OS on his computer

billhoward

You can't go by the analytics most of the time. It worked today.

billhoward

Gorgeous game day. Perfect weather. 4100 showed up.

Wang's season is already longer than Aaron Rodgers. But he's going to wear out if Wang is the QB and leading rusher.

Still it's a W.

jtwcornell91

Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: Chris '03
Quote from: Scersk '97ARE YOU READY FOR SOME PUNTING!!!

This reminds me of the Tim Pendergast era. When the offense was on the field and facing third down, the sideline would yell "punt team!" Coaches included.

Talk about having confidence in your offense....

Quick kick! No one ever sees it coming!

Unironically, since punting is actually the second most important strategic element in football behind run offense/defense, I am surprised we don't see more third down quick kicks. Seems to be the analytic analogue to the new emphasis on going for it on fourth.

I think you were barely teenager during the Sumida/Dase era, but I'm pretty sure both quarterbacks quick kicked on occasion during the 1987 season.

jtwcornell91

Quote from: Chris '03
Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: Chris '03
Quote from: Scersk '97ARE YOU READY FOR SOME PUNTING!!!

This reminds me of the Tim Pendergast era. When the offense was on the field and facing third down, the sideline would yell "punt team!" Coaches included.

Talk about having confidence in your offense....

Quick kick! No one ever sees it coming!

Unironically, since punting is actually the second most important strategic element in football behind run offense/defense, I am surprised we don't see more third down quick kicks. Seems to be the analytic analogue to the new emphasis on going for it on fourth.

Oh, they didn't quick kick. They just wanted to be ready to take the field after the inevitable failed third down.

When I was a kid, my dad went through a phase in Varsity Football where he would throw a long pass on every play outside his own 40, and if he started a drive inside the 40, he'd punt on first down.  The sabermetrics must not have been with him, though, since I beat him pretty consistently while he was using that strategy.

French Rage

Both of my schools (Cornell and Stanford) played FCS teams today.  One of them won...
03/23/02: Maine 4, Harvard 3
03/28/03: BU 6, Harvard 4
03/26/04: Maine 5, Harvard 4
03/26/05: UNH 3, Harvard 2
03/25/06: Maine 6, Harvard 1

Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: French RageBoth of my schools (Cornell and Stanford) played FCS teams today.  One of them won...

Sacramento State?  Who the @#$% is Sacramento State?

Chris H82

Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: French RageBoth of my schools (Cornell and Stanford) played FCS teams today.  One of them won...

Sacramento State?  Who the @#$% is Sacramento State?

I live in Big Sky Conference land (Montana), so I've heard of Sacramento State. They are a good team. And Stanford is not supposed to be a good team this year, so it's not much of an upset.

Ironically, the Ivy League is also a member in the Football Championship Series of the NC$$.
"What... is your favorite color?"  "Blue. No, yel--auuuuugh!"

ugarte

Quote from: Chris H82I live in Big Sky Conference land (Montana), so I've heard of Sacramento State. They are a good team. And Stanford is not supposed to be a good team this year, so it's not much of an upset.
It is still a huge upset! "Bad for the Pac-12" should still blow the doors off of Sac State.

Weder

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Chris H82I live in Big Sky Conference land (Montana), so I've heard of Sacramento State. They are a good team. And Stanford is not supposed to be a good team this year, so it's not much of an upset.
It is still a huge upset! "Bad for the Pac-12" should still blow the doors off of Sac State.

Speaking of the Big Sky, gotta love that Portland State has both an 81-7 loss (to Oregon) and a 91-0 win (over an NAIA team) this season.
3/8/96

French Rage

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Chris H82I live in Big Sky Conference land (Montana), so I've heard of Sacramento State. They are a good team. And Stanford is not supposed to be a good team this year, so it's not much of an upset.
It is still a huge upset! "Bad for the Pac-12" should still blow the doors off of Sac State.

This.  Even in a bad year you should win your warm-up game (though maybe that was Hawaii).  Especially when you pay them $600K to come bad beat you.
03/23/02: Maine 4, Harvard 3
03/28/03: BU 6, Harvard 4
03/26/04: Maine 5, Harvard 4
03/26/05: UNH 3, Harvard 2
03/25/06: Maine 6, Harvard 1