Cornell football 2023

[Ken711]

Jake Novak-a Columbia football blogger who's fairly plugged in Says Archer is gone.

It's been reported by a poster on the Ivy League Sports Board that he's out.  Please let these reports be verified as true.

[Ken711]

Syracuse just fired their head coach Dino Barbers. Maybe he wants to stay in upstate NY.

[tycho]

What a good story it would have been had Archer been the one to restore the Cornell football program to something resembling respectibility. But it was not to be, and practicality must take the place of sentimentality (to the extent any such thing exists as far as Archer is concerned). And practicality tells us that it's time for Cornell and for Archer to move on. I wish him well, but he is a failure of a coach, who leaves much on the field with the talent his team already clearly possesses. My fear is that any coach worth hiring will not be interested -- and in any case, player development takes time and the bleeding'll likely continue. But my hope is that a change will bring with it the sort of alumni engagement the program so desparately needs to rebuild the program into something the University at least needn't be embarrassed by. Academics first and foremost -- we know this isn't the B1G or SEC -- but school pride and spirit are important, to students, faculty, and alumni. Football is a part of that, and of the League's DNA. Go Big Red.

Meantime, I enjoyed the League football season as a whole and the finish yesterday. Good parity, with lots of teams in it until late. What a good story at Dartmouth after the Buddy Teevens tragedy, and that H-Y game befitted the history of that rivalry.

[Swampy]

Assuming Archer is gone, is there any reason to think a new regime will be any better?  Can Cornell do anything to be competitive in football, or are we Brown hockey?

It starts with hiring the head coach, one that surrounds himself with a competent assistant staff.  A head coach that has a proven background of winning.  Simple answer yes.

Good points. But a prior question is if Nicki Moore can discern & hire such a person.

She spent over a decade as junior AD at U. of Oklahoma, which with regard to football might bode well. But Oklahoma football wasn't exactly a model of championship football or conformance to NCAA rules during this time, and let's not even mention Cornell & U of Oklahoma in the same breath when it comes to academics.

From 2018 to 2023 she was AD at Colgate, which is a better comparison (but academically still considerably inferior) to Cornell. 'Gate did win the Patriot League championship in 2018, but never after that. In fact, during the years she was AD at Colgate, the 2018 football team was the only Colgate team to win a Patriot League championship in any sport.

So, a search for a new coach is cause for optimism, but our current AD's record is not. Let's wish her luck. She's going to need it. ::worry::

[George64]

Syracuse just fired their head coach Dino Barbers. Maybe he wants to stay in upstate NY.

Babers was 19-7 at Eastern Illinois and 18-9 at Bowling Green.  Might be a good fit at Cornell.

[scoop85]

From 2018 to 2023 she was AD at Colgate, which is a better comparison (but academically still considerably inferior) to Cornell. 'Gate did win the Patriot League championship in 2018, but never after that. In fact, during the years she was AD at Colgate, the 2018 football team was the only Colgate team to win a Patriot League championship in any sport.

So, a search for a new coach is cause for optimism, but our current AD's record is not. Let's wish her luck. She's going to need it. ::worry::

At the risk of thread drift, as parent of both a Cornell graduate and a current Colgate senior, it's preposterous to say Colgate is "considerably inferior" academically to Cornell. Admission stats are pretty close (Colgate avg. ACT: 32/34, Cornell: 33/35), and from my kids' experience the caliber of students and quality of the classroom rigor is pretty much the same.

[tycho]

Jake Novak-a Columbia football blogger who's fairly plugged in Says Archer is gone.

It's been reported by a poster on the Ivy League Sports Board that he's out.  Please let these reports be verified as true.

I'll believe it when I see it, and even then...

[rss77]

I agree-not a Colgate grad but that was a pretty ignorant remark. Excellent school academically-Just want to beat them in football.

[Local Motion]

Colgate is an outstanding university and great Cornell rivalry.    

In terms of my criticism of Martha Pollack she has simply not been a good fit at Cornell.   Just ask the Michigan alums she was not a popular Provost in Ann Arbor and was never going to get the president's job at that great institution.    I have an older sister who was in Martha Pollack's 1979 Class at Dartmouth and she was a strange bird then and not much has changed.   She couldn't believe it when Martha Pollack was tapped as Cornell's president in 2017.  

In terms of Cornell football, Martha Pollack rarely attends any games and this year she blew off Homecoming as well.  As soon as Martha Pollack arrived at Cornell she attacked Greek Life almost non-stop and proceeded to cut $1MM out of Any Noel's budget on day one.   That is the reality of the situation.  I think we are all excited about Cornell's new AD Nicki Moore, but dealing with this administration will not be easy.   Go Big Red!!!

[Swampy]

From 2018 to 2023 she was AD at Colgate, which is a better comparison (but academically still considerably inferior) to Cornell. 'Gate did win the Patriot League championship in 2018, but never after that. In fact, during the years she was AD at Colgate, the 2018 football team was the only Colgate team to win a Patriot League championship in any sport.

So, a search for a new coach is cause for optimism, but our current AD's record is not. Let's wish her luck. She's going to need it. ::worry::

At the risk of thread drift, as parent of both a Cornell graduate and a current Colgate senior, it's preposterous to say Colgate is "considerably inferior" academically to Cornell. Admission stats are pretty close (Colgate avg. ACT: 32/34, Cornell: 33/35), and from my kids' experience the caliber of students and quality of the classroom rigor is pretty much the same.

Sorry. Maybe I'm basing my judgement on a biased & unrepresentative sample. But I base my comment on my own experience in Cornell's Engineering school compared to someone I had worked with, a Colgate graduate who had majored in geology and was working on a master's degree but didn't have a command of ninth-grade algebra.

[kingpin248]

Jake Novak-a Columbia football blogger who's fairly plugged in Says Archer is gone.

It's been reported by a poster on the Ivy League Sports Board that he's out.  Please let these reports be verified as true.

I'll believe it when I see it, and even then...

Official announcement from Athletics: Cornell Announces Change in Football Leadership

[Ken711]

Jake Novak-a Columbia football blogger who's fairly plugged in Says Archer is gone.

It's been reported by a poster on the Ivy League Sports Board that he's out.  Please let these reports be verified as true.

I'll believe it when I see it, and even then...

You can believe it now that it's official.  It was posted on the Ivy League Sports Board this morning that he was out.

[tycho]

Jake Novak-a Columbia football blogger who's fairly plugged in Says Archer is gone.

It's been reported by a poster on the Ivy League Sports Board that he's out.  Please let these reports be verified as true.

I'll believe it when I see it, and even then...

You can believe it now that it's official.  It was posted on the Ivy League Sports Board this morning that he was out.

Well, I'll be a monkey's uncle. Have to figure Archer has a lot to think about now that he's snapped about the longest leash in Division I. Cornell and Nicki Moore, even more so.

[ugarte]

Jake Novak-a Columbia football blogger who's fairly plugged in Says Archer is gone.

It's been reported by a poster on the Ivy League Sports Board that he's out.  Please let these reports be verified as true.

I'll believe it when I see it, and even then...

Official announcement from Athletics: Cornell Announces Change in Football Leadership

i respect the way they have him a dignified send off. this is as kind as "you're fired" gets.

[mike1960]

I hope the Cornell hiring committee is not too proud to consider coaches from DII and DIII championship winning teams. Lance Leipold won DIII titles at Wisconsin-Whitewater and then turned around the program at Buffalo. He then took a historically awful program at Kansas and has them approaching respectability. When it's all said and done, football is just football, and a coach who wins championship at the college level knows what he's doing.