Cornell football 2023

Started by billhoward, January 11, 2023, 12:57:24 PM

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Ken711

Quote from: TrotskyAssuming Archer is gone, is there any reason to think a new regime will be any better?  Can Cornell do anything to be competitive in football, or are we Brown hockey?

It starts with hiring the head coach, one that surrounds himself with a competent assistant staff.  A head coach that has a proven background of winning.  Simple answer yes.

rss77

I have been big backer of Dave Archer over the years. He bleeds red and white and has been in his "dream job" for 10 years.  30 seniors still being on the team speaks positive that the guys like being in the program. Unfortunately I think it's time to move on. I raise the question of whether football success is possible at Cornell given current conditions.

Ken711

I spoke with Andy after their huge lopsided 66-0 loss to Princeton on October 27, 2018.  That was 5 years and Andy said they were hopeful Archer was going to turn it around.  Well now we see how seriously misplaced their hopes were.

Bahnstorm

Quote from: rss77I have been big backer of Dave Archer over the years. He bleeds red and white and has been in his "dream job" for 10 years.  30 seniors still being on the team speaks positive that the guys like being in the program. Unfortunately I think it's time to move on. I raise the question of whether football success is possible at Cornell given current conditions.
+1. Well said.

Local Motion

As I have said before Cornell's football season is like the Martha Pollack administration.   Ever since she has become president at Cornell the only news coming from the Eaat Hill is bad news.   Just ask CNN.   Cornell needs a new leader who brings positive energy back to our campus.   Whether it's threats of violence on campus, student depression, or a football team who can't even beat Columbia, our students deserve a leader who cares, shows empathy to our students, and brings optimism back to Cornell.

BearLover

Quote from: Local MotionAs I have said before Cornell's football season is like the Martha Pollack administration.   Ever since she has become president at Cornell the only news coming from the Eaat Hill is bad news.   Just ask CNN.   Cornell needs a new leader who brings positive energy back to our campus.   Whether it's threats of violence on campus, student depression, or a football team who can't even beat Columbia, our students deserve a leader who cares, shows empathy to our students, and brings optimism back to Cornell.
You are completely delusional. The football program was a disaster before Martha Pollack, it's a disaster under Martha Pollack, and it will likely be a disaster long after Martha Pollack is gone. I don't even have a perspective on Martha Pollack one way or the other, but one thing I can tell you for certain is that she has almost zero to do with the failures of the football program. Did Martha Pollack also tell the hockey team to pass the puck around the perimeter for the full five-minute power play tonight against Princeton?

RichH

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Local MotionAs I have said before Cornell's football season is like the Martha Pollack administration.   Ever since she has become president at Cornell the only news coming from the Eaat Hill is bad news.   Just ask CNN.   Cornell needs a new leader who brings positive energy back to our campus.   Whether it's threats of violence on campus, student depression, or a football team who can't even beat Columbia, our students deserve a leader who cares, shows empathy to our students, and brings optimism back to Cornell.
You are completely delusional. The football program was a disaster before Martha Pollack, it's a disaster under Martha Pollack, and it will likely be a disaster long after Martha Pollack is gone. I don't even have a perspective on Martha Pollack one way or the other, but one thing I can tell you for certain is that she has almost zero to do with the failures of the football program. Did Martha Pollack also tell the hockey team to pass the puck around the perimeter for the full five-minute power play tonight against Princeton?

I asked CNN and they definitely said yes

Ken711

Quote from: Local MotionAs I have said before Cornell's football season is like the Martha Pollack administration.   Ever since she has become president at Cornell the only news coming from the Eaat Hill is bad news.   Just ask CNN.   Cornell needs a new leader who brings positive energy back to our campus.   Whether it's threats of violence on campus, student depression, or a football team who can't even beat Columbia, our students deserve a leader who cares, shows empathy to our students, and brings optimism back to Cornell.

Nope you're wrong again.  What Cornell deserves is an athletic director that will do his/her job.  Andy failed miserably in overseeing the football program. Nicki Moore has more than enough information on David Archer's ability to be successful or not.  Ten straight losing seasons by the same head coach, something never before seen in NCCA FCS coaching history is justification enough to do her job and dismiss if Archer immediately, if he doesn't do the honorable thing and resign on his own.  Andy made a cheap quick hire in naming David Archer head coach, who as an assistant football coach had NEVER experienced a winning season in his entire coaching career, nor had he ever advanced to a coordinator coaching position, yet was named the Cornell head football coach.  It's time for the new AD to do her job and bring in a new coaching staff with a winning background.

arugula

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Local MotionAs I have said before Cornell's football season is like the Martha Pollack administration.   Ever since she has become president at Cornell the only news coming from the Eaat Hill is bad news.   Just ask CNN.   Cornell needs a new leader who brings positive energy back to our campus.   Whether it's threats of violence on campus, student depression, or a football team who can't even beat Columbia, our students deserve a leader who cares, shows empathy to our students, and brings optimism back to Cornell.
You are completely delusional. The football program was a disaster before Martha Pollack, it's a disaster under Martha Pollack, and it will likely be a disaster long after Martha Pollack is gone. I don't even have a perspective on Martha Pollack one way or the other, but one thing I can tell you for certain is that she has almost zero to do with the failures of the football program. Did Martha Pollack also tell the hockey team to pass the puck around the perimeter for the full five-minute power play tonight against Princeton?

+1 well said.

Trotsky

Quote from: Local MotionAs I have said before Cornell's football season is like the Martha Pollack administration.   Ever since she has become president at Cornell the only news coming from the Eaat Hill is bad news.   Just ask CNN.   Cornell needs a new leader who brings positive energy back to our campus.   Whether it's threats of violence on campus, student depression, or a football team who can't even beat Columbia, our students deserve a leader who cares, shows empathy to our students, and brings optimism back to Cornell.
For fuck's sake how is it Martha Pollack's fault that a student went postal on social media?

This is a bad take and you should feel bad.

Trotsky

Quote from: BearLoverDid Martha Pollack also tell the hockey team to pass the puck around the perimeter for the full five-minute power play tonight against Princeton?
Well if she did that bitch has a lot to answer for. :-(

Trotsky

Quote from: Ken711Ten straight losing seasons by the same head coach, something never before seen in NCCA FCS coaching history

OTOH, just a few more years and he can qualify.

Note: Bill Klika, the 4th worst winning percentage in NCAA history for coaches with at least 100 losses, did his work at Fairleigh Dickinson–Florham.  He retired in 2001, but Dave did his assistant coaching gig there in 2006 (where FDF went 2-8).

Can the student surpass the master?

Ken711

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Ken711Ten straight losing seasons by the same head coach, something never before seen in NCCA FCS coaching history

OTOH, just a few more years and he can qualify.

Qualify for what, Social Security, as he coaches Cornell football until he's 65. :-D

billhoward

Quote from: arugulaHow on Gods name did we ever beat Yale?
Maybe She thought RBG was better than the Justices coming out of New Haven Law. Or just had a sense of humor.

arugula

Jake Novak-a Columbia football blogger who's fairly plugged in Says Archer is gone.