Cornell football 2023

[Trotsky]

I think we all know that with Cornell football 0-4 is always a possibility.

[Ken711]

Five teams are 2-1, including Cornell. Brown and almost unanimous pre-season favorite Yale are 1-2, and Columbia is 0-3.

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Team          Ivy    Overall
Princeton     2-1    3-3
Dartmouth     2-1    3-3
Harvard       2-1    5-1
Penn          2-1    5-1
Cornell       2-1    3-3
Brown         1-2    3-3
Yale          1-2    3-3
Columbia      0-3    2-4

Cornell still has Princeton, @ Penn, @ Dartmouth, Columbia. I could see the last four games breaking anywhere from 3-1 (maybe), could go 2-2 (beat Columbia and ?Dartmouth?), might go 1-3. A 5-5 season would be a decent year for Cornell.

That would be far from a decent year, since that would mean yet another losing Ivy League Conference record of 3-4,

[Al DeFlorio]

Five teams are 2-1, including Cornell. Brown and almost unanimous pre-season favorite Yale are 1-2, and Columbia is 0-3.

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Team          Ivy    Overall
Princeton     2-1    3-3
Dartmouth     2-1    3-3
Harvard       2-1    5-1
Penn          2-1    5-1
Cornell       2-1    3-3
Brown         1-2    3-3
Yale          1-2    3-3
Columbia      0-3    2-4

Cornell still has Princeton, @ Penn, @ Dartmouth, Columbia. I could see the last four games breaking anywhere from 3-1 (maybe), could go 2-2 (beat Columbia and ?Dartmouth?), might go 1-3. A 5-5 season would be a decent year for Cornell.

That would be far from a decent year, since that would mean yet another losing Ivy League Conference record of 3-4,

No, 4-3 Ivy.  1-2 non-Ivy.

[Ken711]

Five teams are 2-1, including Cornell. Brown and almost unanimous pre-season favorite Yale are 1-2, and Columbia is 0-3.

Code Select Expand

Team          Ivy    Overall
Princeton     2-1    3-3
Dartmouth     2-1    3-3
Harvard       2-1    5-1
Penn          2-1    5-1
Cornell       2-1    3-3
Brown         1-2    3-3
Yale          1-2    3-3
Columbia      0-3    2-4

Cornell still has Princeton, @ Penn, @ Dartmouth, Columbia. I could see the last four games breaking anywhere from 3-1 (maybe), could go 2-2 (beat Columbia and ?Dartmouth?), might go 1-3. A 5-5 season would be a decent year for Cornell.

That would be far from a decent year, since that would mean yet another losing Ivy League Conference record of 3-4,

No, 4-3 Ivy.  1-2 non-Ivy.

How's that?  They are 2-1 in the Ivy League now.  They have 4 Ivy League games left.  If they go 1-3 over those 4 games then they would end up with a 3-4 Ivy record.

[BearLover]

Five teams are 2-1, including Cornell. Brown and almost unanimous pre-season favorite Yale are 1-2, and Columbia is 0-3.

Code Select Expand

Team          Ivy    Overall
Princeton     2-1    3-3
Dartmouth     2-1    3-3
Harvard       2-1    5-1
Penn          2-1    5-1
Cornell       2-1    3-3
Brown         1-2    3-3
Yale          1-2    3-3
Columbia      0-3    2-4

Cornell still has Princeton, @ Penn, @ Dartmouth, Columbia. I could see the last four games breaking anywhere from 3-1 (maybe), could go 2-2 (beat Columbia and ?Dartmouth?), might go 1-3. A 5-5 season would be a decent year for Cornell.

That would be far from a decent year, since that would mean yet another losing Ivy League Conference record of 3-4,

No, 4-3 Ivy.  1-2 non-Ivy.

How's that?  They are 2-1 in the Ivy League now.  They have 4 Ivy League games left.  If they go 1-3 over those 4 games then they would end up with a 3-4 Ivy record.

Finishing 1-3 would result in a 4-6 season, not 5-5. That's where the confusion is coming from.

[Ken711]

Five teams are 2-1, including Cornell. Brown and almost unanimous pre-season favorite Yale are 1-2, and Columbia is 0-3.

Code Select Expand

Team          Ivy    Overall
Princeton     2-1    3-3
Dartmouth     2-1    3-3
Harvard       2-1    5-1
Penn          2-1    5-1
Cornell       2-1    3-3
Brown         1-2    3-3
Yale          1-2    3-3
Columbia      0-3    2-4

Cornell still has Princeton, @ Penn, @ Dartmouth, Columbia. I could see the last four games breaking anywhere from 3-1 (maybe), could go 2-2 (beat Columbia and ?Dartmouth?), might go 1-3. A 5-5 season would be a decent year for Cornell.

That would be far from a decent year, since that would mean yet another losing Ivy League Conference record of 3-4,

No, 4-3 Ivy.  1-2 non-Ivy.

How's that?  They are 2-1 in the Ivy League now.  They have 4 Ivy League games left.  If they go 1-3 over those 4 games then they would end up with a 3-4 Ivy record.

Finishing 1-3 would result in a 4-6 season, not 5-5. That's where the confusion is coming from.

Correct.  It's the Ivy League record that matters in any case! It's hard to believe but Archer has had a losing Ivy record in each of his past 9 seasons. Ending with another losing record should they finish 1-3, should be the end of his time here.

[Al DeFlorio]

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Five teams are 2-1, including Cornell. Brown and almost unanimous pre-season favorite Yale are 1-2, and Columbia is 0-3.

Code Select Expand

Team          Ivy    Overall
Princeton     2-1    3-3
Dartmouth     2-1    3-3
Harvard       2-1    5-1
Penn          2-1    5-1
Cornell       2-1    3-3
Brown         1-2    3-3
Yale          1-2    3-3
Columbia      0-3    2-4

Cornell still has Princeton, @ Penn, @ Dartmouth, Columbia. I could see the last four games breaking anywhere from 3-1 (maybe), could go 2-2 (beat Columbia and ?Dartmouth?), might go 1-3. A 5-5 season would be a decent year for Cornell.

That would be far from a decent year, since that would mean yet another losing Ivy League Conference record of 3-4,

No, 4-3 Ivy.  1-2 non-Ivy.

How's that?  They are 2-1 in the Ivy League now.  They have 4 Ivy League games left.  If they go 1-3 over those 4 games then they would end up with a 3-4 Ivy record.

You highlighted Bill's "a 5-5 season would be a decent year for Cornell" and said that would be "far from a decent year" because it would mean a 3-4 Ivy record.  To get to 5-5 from 3-3 today, Bill's "decent year" that you disparaged, would mean a 4-3 Ivy season.

[Ken711]

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Five teams are 2-1, including Cornell. Brown and almost unanimous pre-season favorite Yale are 1-2, and Columbia is 0-3.

Code Select Expand

Team          Ivy    Overall
Princeton     2-1    3-3
Dartmouth     2-1    3-3
Harvard       2-1    5-1
Penn          2-1    5-1
Cornell       2-1    3-3
Brown         1-2    3-3
Yale          1-2    3-3
Columbia      0-3    2-4

Cornell still has Princeton, @ Penn, @ Dartmouth, Columbia. I could see the last four games breaking anywhere from 3-1 (maybe), could go 2-2 (beat Columbia and ?Dartmouth?), might go 1-3. A 5-5 season would be a decent year for Cornell.

That would be far from a decent year, since that would mean yet another losing Ivy League Conference record of 3-4,

No, 4-3 Ivy.  1-2 non-Ivy.

How's that?  They are 2-1 in the Ivy League now.  They have 4 Ivy League games left.  If they go 1-3 over those 4 games then they would end up with a 3-4 Ivy record.

You highlighted Bill's "a 5-5 season would be a decent year for Cornell" and said that would be "far from a decent year" because it would mean a 3-4 Ivy record.  To get to 5-5 from 3-3 today, Bill's "decent year" that you disparaged, would mean a 4-3 Ivy season.

They are 3-3 now with a nice win over Brown.  In my opinion, they need to beat Princeton Saturday or a 1-3 finish is a very real possibility.  Beating Penn and Dartmouth away would be a tough task the way they are playing recently.  Cornell should beat Columbia at home to end the season. A 4-6 overall record and a 3-4 Ivy record should end Archer's tenure.  What more would the new AD have to see.

[Trotsky]

The last time Cornell had a winning record in the Ivies was 2005.

In the 41 seasons since my Freshman year, 1981 - 2002, they have had 12 winning seasons, one 3-3-1 season, and 28 losing seasons including the last 16.

Note that in the 15 seasons from 1986 - 2000, they had 10 winning seasons. 5 of which were 5-2 or better.  For that period, they were... cromulent.

[upprdeck]

my guess is that better coach probably costs more money.. Does it also bring in more money?

[Trotsky]

Are Ivy league recruits really choosing between schools based on the coach?  Such a vanishingly small number go on to the pros, I would think the school, the strength of their major, and even the location were far more decisive in their choice.

Does football have a classic major, the way hockey has (or used to have) Ag Ec and Hotel Management?

[David Harding]

Wave of Cornell football players announce transfer intentions    Eleven seniors scheduled to graduate in the spring still have a year of NCAA eligibility due to the 2020 season being canceled and are hoping to play one more year somewhere outside the Ivy League.  Cornell won't be any weaker than the team would be if those players just found jobs after graduation.

[Al DeFlorio]

Brown 30, Penn 17 start of 4th.  Maybe one fewer one-loss teams?

[ugarte]

Brown 30, Penn 17 start of 4th.  Maybe one fewer one-loss teams?

As soon as I turn it on, a whiffed tackle followed by a fade to the end zone to close it to 30-24 with 8:57 left.

[ugarte]

Brown 30, Penn 17 start of 4th.  Maybe one fewer one-loss teams?

As soon as I turn it on, a whiffed tackle followed by a fade to the end zone to close it to 30-24 with 8:57 left.

Penn drives into the red zone but throws an end zone pick with :56 left. Penn has all 3 TOs and Brown looks like it's not going to get fancy so probably a punt with 45-50 seconds left.