Cornell football 2023

[Ken711]

Believe Cornell was considering two on-campus sites for the new rec center, which would be used by both students & teams.

Any idea where?

[rss77]

The Colgate fans in front of me booed Nikki Moore as soon as her name was announced.  The death of President Garrett hurt the athletic cause as she was pro athletic.  Optics matter and a College President should at least show up at sports events time to time.  IMO Cornell has been lacking for years in good recreational and intramural indoor spaces.

[David Harding]

Believe Cornell was considering two on-campus sites for the new rec center, which would be used by both students & teams.

Any idea where?

This is the most recent master plan.  https://masterplan.cornell.edu/

[David Harding]

I thought the current plan was to go where the soccer field is?

havent heard how the synchrotron will like the construction though?

The master plan works around the ring.

[ugarte]

FYI, Cornell is going to ruin your Friday night instead of your Saturday afternoon. https://cornellbigred.com/news/2023/10/5/cornell-harvard-football-game-shifts-to-espn2-on-friday-night.aspx

[big29red]

Yes- Cornell has lacked the proper leadership to move both Varsity athletics and general student sporting endeavors forward!
 
I agree, Beth Garrett would have been awesome. Our current president is MIA when it comes to athletics and the needs of our student athletes,  especially in regard to enhancing the facilities needed to win. Our peer institutions are far ahead of us. Hey, at least we have a new spot for the synchrotron!

[Trotsky]

Even as a rabid hockey fan I gotta ask: why should athletics be a priority?  If it's a net revenue generator then, fine, use it as an engine to fund legitimate academic pursuits.  But if it loses money... fuck it.  It's a bauble for a minority of students, usually quite wealthy students, who often don't belong on campus anyway.

[Iceberg]

Even as a rabid hockey fan I gotta ask: why should athletics be a priority?  If it's a net revenue generator then, fine, use it as an engine to fund legitimate academic pursuits.  But if it loses money... fuck it.  It's a bauble for a minority of students, usually quite wealthy students, who often don't belong on campus anyway.

Not sure if you're lumping athletics facilities into this, but outdated venues for student, faculty, and staff recreation are definitely unacceptable, especially at a school like Cornell. I remember several months ago a poster here leaving an article about the bad shape of the pool at Teagle. That should never be a story

[big29red]

The school prides itself on its top notch academics, community programing and alumni outreach-why shouldn't athletics and University wide recreational opportunities, facilities, et al, be held to the same standard? Our peer Ivy's certainly do, including MIT; not even in the league!
 
 I and others are not saying athletics should be a priority, just bring them into the current decade and demonstrate to the students and families that pay exorbitant tuition, that you actually care about their collective well-being outside the academic arena!!

[Local Motion]

I have always believed athletics and physical fitness are just as important in high school and college as academics.   For example, one of my former Cornell teammates has been both very successful in the world of finance and today is a scratch golfer.   He recently retired and enjoys playing tournament golf around the northeast.   It's great to be a 4.0 computer science major, but in life you also have to get along with people.  One of the biggest problems we have in the business and professional world is employees who are poor teammates and lack communication skills.  For example, we have one guy in our company who is absolutely brilliant but he's a little odd and struggles with the social skills.  He doesn't exactly exercise either.

If you're a student-athlete you may need to work harder on the academic side to be successful.   On the other hand, if your a brilliant student, you may need to work harder on your physical fitness and people skills.   I have a friend who was a track star in college and is now a professor at Harvard.   At age 62 she can still run circles around most of her students at Harvard.   On the other hand, she had to work very hard on the academic side to be successful.   I have heard she is a very popular professor at Harvard.

Isn't that what the Ivy League is all about?   After all it's a sports conference and not an academic affiliation.

[jtwcornell91]

Even as a rabid hockey fan I gotta ask: why should athletics be a priority?  If it's a net revenue generator then, fine, use it as an engine to fund legitimate academic pursuits.  But if it loses money... fuck it.  It's a bauble for a minority of students, usually quite wealthy students, who often don't belong on campus anyway.

I'd go a little beyond money-making and say that college sports can make the experience of college better for much of the student body, on the same level as a pleasant campus (aesthetically pleasing buildings, quads you want to spend time on, nice views), good student unions/dining halls, school traditions (songs, a capella concerts, food trucks, whatever), etc.  But yes, I'm also not comfortable saying they should be of paramount importance.  E.g., I was dismayed at university presidents who decided keeping varsity sports going in 2020-2021 was more important than student health.

[Al DeFlorio]

Even as a rabid hockey fan I gotta ask: why should athletics be a priority?  If it's a net revenue generator then, fine, use it as an engine to fund legitimate academic pursuits.  But if it loses money... fuck it.  It's a bauble for a minority of students, usually quite wealthy students, who often don't belong on campus anyway.

I'd go a little beyond money-making and say that college sports can make the experience of college better for much of the student body, on the same level as a pleasant campus (aesthetically pleasing buildings, quads you want to spend time on, nice views), good student unions/dining halls, school traditions (songs, a capella concerts, food trucks, whatever), etc.  But yes, I'm also not comfortable saying they should be of paramount importance.  E.g., I was dismayed at university presidents who decided keeping varsity sports going in 2020-2021 was more important than student health.

Agree.Renewing quality faculty tops all.

[George64]

Even as a rabid hockey fan I gotta ask: why should athletics be a priority?  If it's a net revenue generator then, fine, use it as an engine to fund legitimate academic pursuits.  But if it loses money... fuck it.  It's a bauble for a minority of students, usually quite wealthy students, who often don't belong on campus anyway.

I'd go a little beyond money-making and say that college sports can make the experience of college better for much of the student body, on the same level as a pleasant campus (aesthetically pleasing buildings, quads you want to spend time on, nice views), good student unions/dining halls, school traditions (songs, a capella concerts, food trucks, whatever), etc.  But yes, I'm also not comfortable saying they should be of paramount importance.  E.g., I was dismayed at university presidents who decided keeping varsity sports going in 2020-2021 was more important than student health.

Agree.Renewing quality faculty tops all.

Couldn't agree more.  Currently reading American Prometheus, great to see how many Cornell faculty are considered to be the 20th century's greatest physicists - Bethe, Feynman, Wilson, as well as alumnus Isidor Rabi.

[Al DeFlorio]

Even as a rabid hockey fan I gotta ask: why should athletics be a priority?  If it's a net revenue generator then, fine, use it as an engine to fund legitimate academic pursuits.  But if it loses money... fuck it.  It's a bauble for a minority of students, usually quite wealthy students, who often don't belong on campus anyway.

I'd go a little beyond money-making and say that college sports can make the experience of college better for much of the student body, on the same level as a pleasant campus (aesthetically pleasing buildings, quads you want to spend time on, nice views), good student unions/dining halls, school traditions (songs, a capella concerts, food trucks, whatever), etc.  But yes, I'm also not comfortable saying they should be of paramount importance.  E.g., I was dismayed at university presidents who decided keeping varsity sports going in 2020-2021 was more important than student health.

Agree.Renewing quality faculty tops all.

Couldn't agree more.  Currently reading American Prometheus, great to see how many Cornell faculty are considered to be the 20th century's greatest physicists - Bethe, Feynman, Wilson, as well as alumnus Isidor Rabi.

Also reading it.  Cornell's 20th century reputation was based on world-class faculty, such as:  Bethe, Hoffman, Rossiter, Lafeber, Lowi, Bronfenbrenner et al.  I'm sure folks here can add others.

[Al DeFlorio]

Carothers?