Cornell football 2023

[ugarte]

Don't see a better place to post this and don't remember seeing it elsewhere. Dartmouth coach Buddy Teevens was hit by a pickup while riding his bike and had to have a leg amputated. Horrible story though the narrative does not make it sound like the driver was primarily at fault.

[Roy 82]

Don't see a better place to post this and don't remember seeing it elsewhere. Dartmouth coach Buddy Teevens was hit by a pickup while riding his bike and had to have a leg amputated. Horrible story though the narrative does not make it sound like the driver was primarily at fault.

Horrible indeed. And the spinal cord injury could be worse than the leg amputation. But I want to point out that the narrative from the article does not have enough information to really say who was responsible for the incident. It seems common for a police report to point out circumstances blaming the cyclist and omit those blaming the driver. Comments such as he was "not in a crosswalk or designated crossing area" or "he was not wearing a helmet" (neither is illegal or uncommon in most areas) or "no illuminated lights observed on the bicycle" may be true but may be irrelevant and certainly seem to be a bit biased. Where are the statements about the speed of the pickup truck relative to the speed limit and circumstances? Was there an attempt to avoid the cyclist as evidenced by skid marks or was the driver inattentive? Was the lack of illumination a result of the collision? Was there sufficient lighting anyway? Was it a congested area where the driver should have been driving appropriately slowly?

Not trying to pick on what you said and you are probably right. But it seems like standard operating procedure to try to excuse a driver of an automobile of any responsibility as a default.

[ugarte]

Don't see a better place to post this and don't remember seeing it elsewhere. Dartmouth coach Buddy Teevens was hit by a pickup while riding his bike and had to have a leg amputated. Horrible story though the narrative does not make it sound like the driver was primarily at fault.

Horrible indeed. And the spinal cord injury could be worse than the leg amputation. But I want to point out that the narrative from the article does not have enough information to really say who was responsible for the incident. It seems common for a police report to point out circumstances blaming the cyclist and omit those blaming the driver. Comments such as he was "not in a crosswalk or designated crossing area" or "he was not wearing a helmet" (neither is illegal or uncommon in most areas) or "no illuminated lights observed on the bicycle" may be true but may be irrelevant and certainly seem to be a bit biased. Where are the statements about the speed of the pickup truck relative to the speed limit and circumstances? Was there an attempt to avoid the cyclist as evidenced by skid marks or was the driver inattentive? Was the lack of illumination a result of the collision? Was there sufficient lighting anyway? Was it a congested area where the driver should have been driving appropriately slowly?

Not trying to pick on what you said and you are probably right. But it seems like standard operating procedure to try to excuse a driver of an automobile of any responsibility as a default.

completely agreed on all of this

[billhoward]

Police reports always cite multiple causes of crash and injuries: excessive speed, weather, condition of vehicle, seat belts worn, worn tires, cloudy headlamp covers, alcohol, drugs. Allows safety experts to say half of all fatalities are drug / alcohol-related, lets somebody else say badly maintained highways/signage are a causal factor.

Some now-dead driver who blows a 0.09% BAC is legally drunk but was it was also raining, his headlamps weren't very good, it was an unfamiliar road with a sharp curve, the lanes were not well marked (Florida paints lanes like every 6 months, some states might do them every 5 years), the sign indicating sharp curve ahead had weathered and should have been replaced, and he was doing 65 on a 55 local highway. And he was unbelted. I'd say with all these causal factors, it was not being drunk that led to the accident and lack of a safety belt that killed him.

Too bad about Teevens getting hit while biking. Had a work friend, avid cyclist, killed by a car twenty years ago. Note the news story says there was no light observed on the bicycle and he wasn't in a crosswalk, that is, pointing to multiple factors. The AP also wasn't able to get a crash report (public document) out of the Florida Highway Patrol.

[George64]

I looked at the Athletic Department's giving page today - with a week left in the fiscal year, football is at 52 percent of its funding goal!  Compare that to women's ice hockey (100%), wrestling (99%), sprint football (155%), rowing (98%) . . . Apparently, people are trying to send a message to AD Moore through their wallets!

[Ken711]

I looked at the Athletic Department's giving page today - with a week left in the fiscal year, football is at 52 percent of its funding goal!  Compare that to women's ice hockey (100%), wrestling (99%), sprint football (155%), rowing (98%) . . . Apparently, people are trying to send a message to AD Moore through their wallets!

The Big Red are entering their 10th season under head coach David Archer, who has a 26-64 overall record at the school (17-45 Ivy League). Enough said...

[mike1960]

I looked at the Athletic Department's giving page today - with a week left in the fiscal year, football is at 52 percent of its funding goal!  Compare that to women's ice hockey (100%), wrestling (99%), sprint football (155%), rowing (98%) . . . Apparently, people are trying to send a message to AD Moore through their wallets!

The Big Red are entering their 10th season under head coach David Archer, who has a 26-64 overall record at the school (17-45 Ivy League). Enough said...

Ouch.

[marty]

I looked at the Athletic Department's giving page today - with a week left in the fiscal year, football is at 52 percent of its funding goal!  Compare that to women's ice hockey (100%), wrestling (99%), sprint football (155%), rowing (98%) . . . Apparently, people are trying to send a message to AD Moore through their wallets!

The Big Red are entering their 10th season under head coach David Archer, who has a 26-64 overall record at the school (17-45 Ivy League). Enough said...

Ouch.

Is there anyway that we could easily know if Archer has the record for the worst Ivy win percentage over 9 seasons?  Maybe some poor sap at Columbia might have him beat.

[nyc94]

I looked at the Athletic Department's giving page today - with a week left in the fiscal year, football is at 52 percent of its funding goal!  Compare that to women's ice hockey (100%), wrestling (99%), sprint football (155%), rowing (98%) . . . Apparently, people are trying to send a message to AD Moore through their wallets!

The Big Red are entering their 10th season under head coach David Archer, who has a 26-64 overall record at the school (17-45 Ivy League). Enough said...

Ouch.

Is there anyway that we could easily know if Archer has the record for the worst Ivy win percentage over 9 seasons?  Maybe some poor sap at Columbia might have him beat.

Brown was the doormat in the 1960s. Looks worse than Archer over any choice of nine year sample from 1959 to 1972.

https://ivyleague.com/documents/2022/9/15/2022_FB_Record_Book.pdf

edit: The longest Brown kept the same head coach in that span was eight years. John McLaughry 17–51–3 (.261) overall, 8–46–2 (.161) Ivy (1959-1966)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Brown_Bears_football_seasons

Archer .289 overall, .270 Ivy


Aldo Donelli, Columbia, 11 seasons (1957-1967) - 30–67–2 (.313) overall, 21–54–2 (.286) Ivy

Ray Tellier, Columbia 14 seasons (1989-2002) - 42–96–2 (.307) overall, 28-70 (.286) Ivy

[Ken711]

I looked at the Athletic Department's giving page today - with a week left in the fiscal year, football is at 52 percent of its funding goal!  Compare that to women's ice hockey (100%), wrestling (99%), sprint football (155%), rowing (98%) . . . Apparently, people are trying to send a message to AD Moore through their wallets!

The Big Red are entering their 10th season under head coach David Archer, who has a 26-64 overall record at the school (17-45 Ivy League). Enough said...

Ouch.

Is there anyway that we could easily know if Archer has the record for the worst Ivy win percentage over 9 seasons?  Maybe some poor sap at Columbia might have him beat.

No Ivy League head coach has led his team this long with such an overall losing record. If the new AD doesn't make a change after this season, unless Cornell finishes with a winning record, something is seriously wrong.

[upprdeck]

perhaps money is driving this bus

[marty]

perhaps money is driving this bus

The bus seems to be powered by an 80's era GM 8-6-4 V8 that Andy tried to convert to a diesel.

[Swampy]

perhaps money is driving this bus

The bus seems to be powered by an 80's era GM 8-6-4 V8 that Andy tried to convert to a diesel.

I think he sold the V8 and tried to replace it with a straight 6.

[dbilmes]

This press release sums up the expectations for the Archer years. As long as we finish higher in the standings than was predicted, the season will be a success. If Cornell finishes in 6th place in the Ivies, we can consider it another successful season! Our opening Ivy opponent, Yale, received 13 of 16 first-place votes.
"The Big Red football team will be in position to prove the experts wrong - again.

Cornell was picked to finish seventh in the 2023 Ivy League Football Preseason Media Poll that was announced today. The Big Red will kick off the new campaign with its sights set on having a much bigger impact on the league standings when it visits Lehigh on Saturday, Sept. 16 at 2 p.m. in Bethlehem, Pa. Cornell opens Ivy League play the following weekend at Yale, then opens its home season on Saturday, Sept. 30 against Colgate at Schoellkopf Field for Homecoming.

The Big Red has surpassed its preseason predicted finish in seven of the past eight seasons, including in 2022 when it was picked to place eighth only to tie for sixth."

[George64]

This press release sums up the expectations for the Archer years. As long as we finish higher in the standings than was predicted, the season will be a success. If Cornell finishes in 6th place in the Ivies, we can consider it another successful season! Our opening Ivy opponent, Yale, received 13 of 16 first-place votes.
"The Big Red football team will be in position to prove the experts wrong - again.

Cornell was picked to finish seventh in the 2023 Ivy League Football Preseason Media Poll that was announced today. The Big Red will kick off the new campaign with its sights set on having a much bigger impact on the league standings when it visits Lehigh on Saturday, Sept. 16 at 2 p.m. in Bethlehem, Pa. Cornell opens Ivy League play the following weekend at Yale, then opens its home season on Saturday, Sept. 30 against Colgate at Schoellkopf Field for Homecoming.

The Big Red has surpassed its preseason predicted finish in seven of the past eight seasons, including in 2022 when it was picked to place eighth only to tie for sixth."

Our home game against Brown will be critical!
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