Harvard @ Cornell, 12/2/2022

[ugarte]

osorojo is not literally a bot. oso's also not an old alum pining for the old days. oso is a very particular type of troll and it is really driving me up a wall that you are all too content to argue with nonsense provocations as if they are sincere because you love argument Just That Much.

i fully admit that my frustration - and my public response - is a second-order effect of the troll. the only way for my nerves to be calmed is not for the troll to shut up but for all of you to stop responding as if the posts are anything but Jon Cleese's in the argument sketch. oso is Tinkerbell in the sense that the existence of trolls is entirely dependent on you believing they are "real."

[George64]

I'm a cranky oldish alum, too.

Cranky, perhaps, but class of '97, oldish?  Just wait!  That said, I agree that college hockey has significantly changed since the '60s, largely because Cornell elevated the game, particularly in the east.  Far more equity today, as other schools have upped their game. I consider myself fortunate to have been in grad school, too, and seen teams go 29-0-0, 27-1-1 and 27-2-0 (twice).

[Dafatone]

osorojo is not literally a bot. oso's also not an old alum pining for the old days. oso is a very particular type of troll and it is really driving me up a wall that you are all too content to argue with nonsense provocations as if they are sincere because you love argument Just That Much.

i fully admit that my frustration - and my public response - is a second-order effect of the troll. the only way for my nerves to be calmed is not for the troll to shut up but for all of you to stop responding as if the posts are anything but Jon Cleese's in the argument sketch. oso is Tinkerbell in the sense that the existence of trolls is entirely dependent on you believing they are "real."

I want to live in the universe where he's a bot. But you're otherwise right.

[marty]

I'm a cranky old alum who was fortunate to be around when Lynah was built, when Cornell dominated the Ivy league for years on end, when the Cornell hockey team was the best college hockey team in the nation, when attendance at Lynah was SRO for years on end. This experience makes me cringe when I come across justifications for the status quo of C.U. men's varsity ice hockey. I prefer to harbor unrealistic expectations for success rather than  logical explanations for failure. All us Bots feel this way.

I've been amused with the bot argument.  After reading this post I conclude that,  yes, eLynah, there is an osorojo.  

I see on the horizon a vocation writing the bromides that have found their way into modern day fortune cookies.

[billhoward]

I'm a cranky old alum ...

Redundancy alert? But I feel that way too.

PS One thing that makes a COA feel old has been seeing the Ed Marinaro '72 jersey on display. It has turned closer to pink than the original red. It also says, "That's the high water mark of football the last 50 years."

Princeton wisely displays a bronze bust of Hobey Baker '14 that does not fade.

[Scersk '97]

I'm a cranky oldish alum, too.

Cranky, perhaps, but class of '97, oldish?  Just wait!

I am middle-cranked. I can tell the kids to get off my lawn and, just barely, have a chance of enforcing it.

[Chris '03]

I'm a cranky oldish alum, too.

Cranky, perhaps, but class of '97, oldish?  Just wait!

I am middle-cranked. I can tell the kids to get off my lawn and, just barely, have a chance of enforcing it.

You've been telling people to get off your lawn for the 20+ years I've known you.

[jtwcornell91]

Correct on ECAC standings.

In pairwise, an OT win counts as 0.67 of a win and an OT loss is 0.33, changed from last year's 0.55 and 0.45 .

So we went from OT barely mattering while playing functional hockey overtime to OT mattering some while playing sideshow hockey.

Sounds about right.

But the OT was already 3x3 last year, right?  I don't like the 3-2-2-1-1-0 point system (although it's better than 2-2-2-1-1-0 or whatever the NHL does), but I fear it's here to stay, since it's now the standard in the IIHF and the European leagues.  If you ask me, nothing was wrong with 5 minutes of 5x5 OT followed by a tie, but if we're going to have gimmicks and shootouts, I'd at least rather see 4x4 OT and something like 5-4-3-2-1-0 (i.e., 5 points for winning in regulation, 4 in OT, and 3 in a shootout).

[billhoward]

But the OT was already 3x3 last year, right?  I don't like the 3-2-2-1-1-0 point system (although it's better than 2-2-2-1-1-0 or whatever the NHL does), but I fear it's here to stay, since it's now the standard in the IIHF and the European leagues.  If you ask me, nothing was wrong with 5 minutes of 5x5 OT followed by a tie, but if we're going to have gimmicks and shootouts, I'd at least rather see 4x4 OT and something like 5-4-3-2-1-0 (i.e., 5 points for winning in regulation, 4 in OT, and 3 in a shootout).

The preferred points format in the rec leagues of Cape Canaveral.

[andyw2100]

If you ask me, nothing was wrong with 5 minutes of 5x5 OT followed by a tie

This!

I would guess almost everyone here would agree.

[Al DeFlorio]

If you ask me, nothing was wrong with 5 minutes of 5x5 OT followed by a tie

This!

I would guess almost everyone here would agree.

+1

[George64]

If you ask me, nothing was wrong with 5 minutes of 5x5 OT followed by a tie

This!

I would guess almost everyone here would agree.

Definitely!
.

[ugarte]

If you ask me, nothing was wrong with 5 minutes of 5x5 OT followed by a tie

This!

I would guess almost everyone here would agree.

i think it's true too but i confess that i've emotionally moved on. i'll watch whatever format they settle on.

[Larry72]

If you ask me, nothing was wrong with 5 minutes of 5x5 OT followed by a tie

This!

I would guess almost everyone here would agree.

Definitely!
.

++1

[Weder]

If you ask me, nothing was wrong with 5 minutes of 5x5 OT followed by a tie

This!

I would guess almost everyone here would agree.

Definitely!
.

++1

From Schafer's email this week:

The ECAC plays a three-on-three format in overtime, which I really hate. It's not how to decide a game! We don't practice 3-on-3 a whole lot and we had a couple of guys stay on the ice longer than they should have during overtime. Just a minute in, we turned it over in our offensive zone, which led to a Harvard breakaway by their Montreal top-draft-choice and USA Olympian. Sophomore goaltender Ian Shane made a great save on the initial shot with the puck going up in the rafters. It landed right behind Shane in the crease. A Harvard player found the puck before Shane and scored. It was a disappointing way to lose and anticlimactic for the fans. I would have preferred to see these teams play 5-on-5 for five minutes. It was a tough way to end a great night.